MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning! Alternatives to meat are all the rage. But is it all it’s cracked up to be?
FIEDLER: It might feel like, Oh, this is just so different for Burger King. It’s really not, because they’re just formulating it into a different package to reach a different market.
NICK EICHER, HOST: Also when government promotes vice to increase revenues, people suffer. We have a report from Illinois.
Plus a Christian big rig driver who sees his job as something bigger…
WOODIEL: Just be patient, be kind and be politeful out there. We’re all driving the same interstates.
And Cal Thomas on a brand-new Russian collusion narrative.
REICHARD: It’s Thursday, October 24th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.
EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!
REICHARD: Now news. Here’s Kent Covington.
KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: President Trump lifts Turkey sanctions » President Trump said Wednesday that he is lifting sanctions on Turkey after the country agreed to what it called a “permanent” ceasefire with Kurdish fighters in Syria.
TRUMP: Should Turkey fail to honor its obligations including the protection of religious and ethnic minorities, which I truly believe they will do, we reserve the right to reimpose crippling sanctions.
But many on Capitol Hill point out that Turkey has already proven it will not protect religious and ethnic minorities. And lawmakers again voiced worries that the withdrawal of American troops will fuel an ISIS resurgence.
The president shook off that criticism. He said “we’ve done a good job” and “We’ve saved a lot of lives.” And he declared once more, “We’re getting out.”
TRUMP: Let someone else fight over this long bloodstained sand.
But the president confirmed that some U.S. troops will remain in the region a little longer. He said a “small number” of troops will guard key oil fields in Syria to ensure they don’t fall into the wrong hands.
Republicans stage protest walk-in during impeachment inquiry deposition » Republican lawmakers on Wednesday made quite a scene and briefly brought the Democrat-led impeachment inquiry to a halt.
About two dozen GOP House members stormed into a closed-door session where Democrats were questioning a Defense Department official. The interruption forced Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff to stop the deposition.
Republicans said the spectacle was meant to draw attention to the secretive nature of the impeachment process. Speaking to reporters, House Minority Whip Steve Scalise asked, “What is Adam Schiff trying to hide?”
SCALISE: Through those hidden, closed doors over there, Adam Schiff is trying to impeach a president of the United States, behind closed doors.
But Democratic Congresswoman Val Demings said there’s nothing unusual about a closed-door committee hearing.
DEMINGS: I know the Republicans are under a lot of stress. But this investigation is being conducted by the Intelligence Committee, and the members of the Republican side are there if they choose to be.
Democrats said the move compromised national security because some of the Republicans brought electronic devices into a secure room.
GOP Congressman Andy Biggs said they had planned to stage the walk-in protest last week but postponed it due to the death of Congressman Elijah Cummings.
Court ruling religious exemptions » A federal court this week struck down a Trump administration rule that exempted religious employers from the Obamacare birth control mandate. WORLD Radio’s Leigh Jones reports.
LEIGH JONES, REPORTER: A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the exemption violated the intent of the Affordable Care Act.
Religious groups led by Little Sisters of the Poor challenged the mandate at the Supreme Court in 20-16. The high court sent the case back to lower courts to work out a compromise.
The 9th Circuit said the opt-out process the government created for employers did not burden their religious liberty rights … and that makes the exemption unnecessary.
Judge Andrew Kleinfeld penned the lone dissent. He said the state-led challenge to the exemption had more to do with saving money than with women’s healthcare.
The Trump administration announced the birth control exemption rule in 2017 and finalized it last year. Under the Affordable Care Act, the Obama administration required employers to provide birth control coverage with no co-payment.
Reporting for WORLD Radio, I’m Leigh Jones.
Migrant bodies found in the U.K. » Police in Essex, England made a grim discovery on Wednesday—a refrigerated truck with bodies of 39 migrants in the back.
Authorities said the migrants appear to have frozen to death in the back of the truck. Police arrested the driver, a 25-year-old man from Northern Ireland, on suspicion of murder.
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson called the deaths an “unimaginable tragedy.”
JOHNSON: I know that the thoughts and prayers of all members are with those who lost their lives and their loved ones.
Police believe the vehicle came from Bulgaria, which shares a border with Turkey. Since a border fence went up between the two countries, many migrants are paying traffickers to smuggle them into Europe.
Hong Kong formally withdraws extradition bill » Hong Kong authorities on Wednesday formally withdrew a controversial extradition bill that sparked months of protests. WORLD East Asia report June Cheng has more.
JUNE CHENG, REPORTER:Hong Kong Secretary for Security John Lee announced that the government has now formally suspended the bill because it had resulted in—quote—”conflicts in society.”
But there are no signs that his announcement will dampen protests, which have snowballed into a political crisis. Protesters are demanding government reforms and investigations into police abuses.
And the bill’s withdrawal was overshadowed by another announcement.
Hong Kong authorities released murder suspect Chan Tong-kai from prison. He’s wanted for murder in Taiwan and it is his case that led to the controversial extradition bill in Hong Kong.
Chan completed a separate sentence for money laundering. After his release he told reporters that he wants to turn himself in to authorities in Taiwan.
Reporting for WORLD Radio, I’m June Cheng.
COVINGTON: I’m Kent Covington. Straight ahead: the food trend driving demand for the Impossible Whopper. Plus, a long-haul trucker who shares the gospel up and down the highway. This is The World and Everything in It.
NICK EICHER: It’s Thursday the 23rd of October, 2019. So glad you’ve chosen to listen to The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Nick Eicher.
MARY REICHARD: And I’m Mary Reichard. First up, meatless meat.
Now, veggie burgers have been around for a long time. But plant-based meatiness has always been a niche market. Now, it’s going mainstream. Companies like Impossible Foods and Beyond Meat and (my favorite) Incogmeato have started producing plant-based products that even carnivores find tasty.
EICHER: Burger chains like White Castle and Red Robin jumped onboard with plant-based sliders and whoppers. In August, Burger King launched its Impossible Whopper nation-wide. Last month, McDonalds started testing a meatless burger in Canada.
WORLD Radio’s Anna Johansen reports now on what’s behind the fad.
AUDIO: Hi! Do you guys have the Impossible Whopper?
JOHANSEN: Okay. Can I get one of those please?
ANNA JOHANSEN, REPORTER: The Impossible Whopper is supposed to be so much like meat, you can’t tell the difference.
SOUND: CRINKLING WRAPPER
It looks like meat, tastes like meat, smells like meat. But the main ingredient is soy protein.
MATT BALL: Companies like Beyond Meat and Impossible Foods, they decided we are going to tear down meat into its constituent parts.
Matt Ball works for the Good Food Institute. He’s a big fan of the new meatless products.
BALL: So if you take meat apart, you have amino acids and fatty acids and water and some minerals. And all these things can come from non-animal sources.
But there’s at least one thing in meat that plants don’t have.
BALL: Beef has actual blood in it.
Impossible Foods wanted to replicate that part of the meat experience…without using actual blood. So they used heme instead. Heme is an iron-based element that carries oxygen in the bloodstream. But you can also find heme in the roots of soybeans. That’s how Impossible Foods creates that juiciness and meaty flavor.
Pam Popper is the executive director of Wellness Forum Health.
PAM POPPER: I’ve said to people half kidding, you know, obviously after this meal you see that I don’t live on acorns and tree bark. And isn’t that nice to know that you don’t have to do that in order to eat well?
She says the new products show just how much food culture has changed over the last 30 years.
POPPER: I remember going into restaurants and I would say I’m a vegetarian. They’d say, Oh, you’re a veterinarian. I mean, that’s how much people just didn’t even know anything about this. And look at how far we’ve come.
These days, vegetarianism is trendy, partly because people think it’s better for you. So when fast-food giant Burger King rolled out the Impossible Whopper, it generated a lot of buzz. But Sarah Fiedler doesn’t think it’s that revolutionary.
SARAH FIEDLER: It might feel like, Oh, this is just so different for Burger King. It’s really not, because they’re already working so much with…[8:58] these things that are highly sprayed and highly processed, they’re just formulating it into a different package to reach a different market.
Fiedler is a naturopathic doctor. She says a lot of vegetarians assume that if it doesn’t have meat, it must be healthy. But that’s not necessarily true.
FIEDLER: Rather than you counting calories, I want you to be counting chemicals that are in your food because that’s the much bigger health problem that we’re seeing. Whether you consider yourself a vegetarian, vegan, omnivore, carnivore, wherever you want to put yourself, it’s really about reducing the processed commercialized food.
Basically, if you want healthy food, Burger King still isn’t the best place to go.
But being more healthy isn’t the only reason people are going meatless. Matt Ball points to the findings of an Oklahoma State University study.
MATT BALL: 47 percent of people wanted to ban slaughterhouses. And two thirds had some discomfort with how animals are used in the food system.
As plant-based meat products get tastier, more people are choosing them for environmental reasons. Pam Popper explains.
POPPER: Eat this instead of the other, and then we’ll save the rainforest and, you know, we’ll have less destruction of land and we won’t be cruel to animals and we won’t destroy the environment because methane gas from factory farms is actually far worse than anything we’re doing with fuel. And I think there’s a whole population of people that would respond to that message, are responding to that message.
At this point, any environmental benefits are pretty nebulous—just like any potential health benefits. The companies producing meatless products have faced a lot of criticism. Too many additives and flavor enhancements. Too many genetically modified ingredients. The products are too heavily processed. They’re grilled on the same equipment as real meat.
Pam Popper thinks all that criticism is a little unfortunate.
POPPER: Companies that I think are trying to do things that are steps in the right direction are often met with hostility, it doesn’t certainly motivate other people to want to jump on board.
Popper hopes other companies will continue to experiment and someday come up with new and better plant-based innovations.
Reporting for WORLD Radio, I’m Anna Johansen.
MARY REICHARD: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: gambling in Illinois.
Forty years ago, Las Vegas was the only place where people could legally lose money at slot machines and poker tables. Today, some form of gambling is legal in nearly every state.
NICK EICHER: Illinois already allows slot machines and casino gambling. But this year lawmakers are placing a bet to make their state the gambling capital of the Midwest.
A bill passed earlier this summer expands gambling and promises to give the state coffers a boost. But groups that work with gambling addicts warn the bill is likely to cause more trouble than lawmakers bargained for.
WORLD Radio intern John Vence has our story.
JOHN VENCE, INTERN: You don’t have to look hard to find a slot machine in Illinois. They’re in bowling alleys, gas stations, even Chinese restaurants. And with the passing of Senate Bill 690, locals and visitors will have more opportunities than ever to gamble.
The bill legalizes sports betting and authorizes the construction of a 4,000 seat megacasino in Chicago. It also doubles the number of individual places to sit and gamble to almost 80,000 statewide. That’s four times the number in neighboring states.
During debate over the law, state Representative Robert Rita urged his colleagues to support it. He told the Senate the bill will create more jobs and tax revenue to fund construction projects like roadwork and park upgrades.
RITA: Senate bill 690 is a jobs bill. It’s going to create jobs. It’s going to create economic development. In closing, let’s vote yes and let’s put people to work.
Anita Bedell leads Illinois Church Action on Alcohol and Addiction Problems—or the ILCAAAP for short. For decades, Bedell’s organization has worked to prevent problems caused by alcohol, drugs, and gambling addiction. And she warns those problems are only going to get worse as gambling expands.
BEDELL: We’re just very concerned because it’s going to put more machines and more temptation against people that are already in trouble with gambling. This is not good for, for the state, it’s not good for the people and the families of Illinois.
And while the problems associated with gambling are sure to multiply, Bedell warns the bill’s supposed benefits are much less certain.
Illinois legalized video gambling in 2009. Supporters predicted the state would rake in a billion dollars by 2014. But the tax revenue only totaled $70 million by then.
Still, players loved the slot machines, and they spread across the Illinois plains like wildfire.
TAMMY: I can’t imagine where else are going to put them. I mean the bowling alley, the bars, the grocery stores, the gas, well, the gas stations…
That’s Tammy. She asked us not to use her last name. She says she sees slot machines just about everywhere she goes.
TAMMY: When Sullivan got them, I was shocked. The grocery store. I was like, are you kidding me? I can go there and get groceries and go over there and gamble. Oh, who’s gonna see me in here? Everybody knows me in here. I’m not going there. [laughs]
Tammy is a gambling addict. She’s one of the many Illinois residents who have fed more than $21 billion combined into slot machines since they were legalized.
Tammy started gambling casually with a group of friends 20 years ago, but her habit quickly got out of hand. She realized she had a problem on one particular trip to Las Vegas.
TAMMY: I dropped 5,000 in 3 days, never in my life did I think I would do something like that.
Three years ago, Tammy’s marriage crumbled and her only daughter died. After that, her gambling got much worse. She went to bars and gambling houses, feeding 20 dollar bills into the slot machines, just to escape.
Slot machines are so addictive they’re sometimes referred to as electronic morphine—the “crack cocaine” of gambling. Bedell calls them addiction delivery devices.
BEDELL: It’s like the, the Skinner box where, where people just get so focused on the machines that they get in a zone and they don’t stop. It doesn’t matter if they’re winning or losing, they just continue to gamble.
Pathological gambling can be devastating. The estimated 10 million Americans who struggle with gambling addiction are also prone to depression and other addictions. 1 in 5 addicts considers or commits suicide to escape serious debt. Half of them commit crimes to fuel their addiction.
Illinois already has the highest rate of gambling-related arrests in the country. To help combat problems, the state adopted a self-exclusion program that allows people to ban themselves from casinos. It’s also dedicating nearly $7 million to fight gambling addiction.
But Bedell says that isn’t enough.
BEDELL: So while they put some money in the bill to address problem gambling, they are tripling the amount of gambling that we have. And there will be not enough resources, or help for people.
She’s also frustrated with what she considers to be complacency in the church. Congregations donate food and supplies to those in debt. And many churches host Gambler’s Anonymous groups. But Bedell says the church needs to be more vocal about the issue.
BEDELL: You need a voice of truth. You need someone to speak up for the people and the harm that it’s going to be inflicted on the people. So that’s where the church has, has a role to play.
Sometimes Bedell feels like she’s fighting a losing battle. But it’s a battle she’s called to fight anyway.
BEDELL: God put me here. He’s kept me here and so, and he sends people to help. So as long as he wants me to do this work, I will keep doing it.
For WORLD Radio, I’m John Vence, reporting from Seatonville, Illinois.
MARY REICHARD: Police officers have a lot to deal with.
Officers in the middle of a traffic stop wound up chasing a great big bird running down the streets of Franklin, Massachusetts.
Sergeant Jason Reilly told television station WFXT…
RILEY: It looked like an ostrich.
Mmm, emu. Police found its owner and spent an hour tracking the big bird. Her name is Pippa. But Pippa wasn’t going to come back easily.
….which was no surprise to Kathy Gatchel, Pippa’s owner.
GATCHEL: They’re very difficult to catch. They’re fast birds. They’re not very friendly.
But there’s an app for that! Gatchel’s daughter played emu sounds on her iPhone to attract the bird. And it worked! When Pippa got close enough, she jumped on the emu’s back. Then the part that really did the job:
RILEY: We did some quick thinking, and one of our officers took his sock off and put it over the emu’s head.
That’s when Pippa gave in and went happily back to her pen.
Sometimes all you need is to just put a sock over it.
It’s The World and Everything in It.
MARY REICHARD: Today is Thursday, October 24th. We’re so glad you’ve joined us today for The World and Everything in It. Good morning to you! I’m Mary Reichard.
NICK EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Next up: Driving a big rig.
Trucking is an industry that is a crucial part of our economy: big rigs move some 70 percent of all the freight in the United States.
But the industry is struggling to keep jobs filled. Drivers are starting to age out at the same time demand for quick transport is increasing. WORLD Radio’s Kim Henderson talked with a long-time truck driver who sees his work as more than just a job.
WOODIEL: My name is Kenny Woodiel. I drive a truck for Saia Motor Freight, been driving for 32 years, and this is my mission field the Lord’s got me in.
KIM HENDERSON, REPORTER: At age 55, Kenny Woodiel stands solid and smiling beside an idling 18-wheeler. He’s a trucker who’s paid his dues, beginning with three years of long hauls as a rookie. He’s seen 48 states through his windshield.
WOODIEL: How somebody can drive a truck and not know there’s a God? Ah, I’ve seen the sunset coming over the desert. It was just magical. I’ve seen stars shooting across the mountains in Montana…
The father of five worked his way up to week-long stints, then did night runs for 18 years. Now, with seniority, Woodiel has a plumb pick—a daily run from Memphis, Tennessee, to Mt. Vernon, Illinois. That means he’s up at 4:15 each morning to drive 528 miles round trip. But he likes coming home every night to his wife.
WOODIEL: Like I said…being a trucker, in the early stages of your life, you’re going to miss a lot of stuff. I’ve missed a lot of stuff.
When we climb into the truck, it’s clear Woodiel’s in his element.
WOODIEL: What about it out there? Anybody got a copy? (static reply)
Most of us never see the inside of an 18-wheeler. There are more dials on the dash than in a watch factory.
WOODIEL: Your braking system right here. Your gauges tell you your air pressure, your oil pressure, your airbag pressure . . .
While he’s pointing out the basics, Woodiel lands on some newer tools of the trade.
WOODIEL: We got a Bendix up here that tells how fast somebody’s going in front of us, how many feet we are from them. I got lane deviators. If I go across a line, it’ll “brrrr” and let you know… Got a camera facing me, filming me. If it triggers something, an accident or something, it’s going to film what I’m doing, and it’s going to film what happened in front of us. It’s big brother riding with us.
E-logging regulations hit the industry in 2017, leading many older truckers to seek retirement. But Woodiel welcomed the changes.
WOODIEL: Anytime this truck moves, it’s going to log on. You cannot move it without a log and let them know. So you’re going to have to run the legal now—11 hours and you need to stop. There was times in my career I would probably drive 20, 22 hours non- stop . . . it was very unsafe.
Still, 11 hours is a long stretch. Woodiel says the key for him is grasping opportunities, like the opportunity to spend time alone with God.
WOODIEL: I listen to a lot of preaching and a lot of praise songs. I bet some people think I’m a nut. They’re liable to drive by me, and I got a good praise song, I’ve got my hands raised up. Uh, I mean, there’s times that God’s just so evident, so powerful in my truck . . .
One of those powerful times happened six months ago, when Woodiel was going through a trial. In his Bible, he read Paul’s admonition to examine yourself.
WOODIEL: I knew I had 10 hours to drive. I said, “All right, God, I’m gonna turn the radio off. I’m turning everything off. I’m going to give you this 10 hours.” And I took inventory of myself . . . And when I got back to Memphis and climbed out of that truck, I was a different man. And I give God all the glory.
A 32-year trucking career means Woodiel has come upon his share of wrecks. He’s held the hands of traumatized victims and comforted hysterical mamas. One middle-of-the-night scene just outside Monroe, Louisiana, left him with nightmares. It was a head-on collision, and he discovered a haunting fatality with his flashlight.
WOODIEL: It weren’t for God, counseling, and loving on me and, and seeing me through it . . . I was ready to quit driving. I was young in my driving career, and I’ve never forgot that.
It’s made him a safer driver. But road rudeness is a growing problem, and it can be a challenge to keep a right attitude amid all the crude gestures and profanity. He has some advice for drivers sharing lanes with big rigs.
WOODIEL: Just be patient, be kind and be politeful out there. We’re all driving the same interstates, and 10 more miles an hour ain’t going to get you there quicker. [Sound of truck’s air brakes]
Woodiel sees his job as an opportunity to impact others. At a truck stop, he asks his waitress how he can pray for her when he says a blessing over his meal. When he fuels up, he shares the gospel with the guy at a nearby pump. Sometimes he’s not even aware of who’s listening.
WOODIEL: About two years later, a guy come up to me, he said, “Man, I don’t know if you remember this, he said, but you was talking to this guy about the Lord.” He said, “And I was listening.” He said, “When I got home, I told my wife: “we’ve got to go to church. I want to get in church, I want to get saved, and I want this Jesus…”
Woodiel teaches Sunday School and volunteers at a soup kitchen in downtown Memphis. But he says trucking is where God uses him most.
WOODIEL: I haul a lot of freight in them trailers, but what my main goal is the seeds that I’m hauling to sprout, to spread out there. It’s up to God to harvest, but I’m spreading the seeds.
For WORLD Radio, I’m Kim Henderson reporting from Nesbit, Mississippi.
MARY REICHARD: Next up on The World and Everything in It: an excerpt from Listening In.
This week, a conversation with Pastor Andrew Brunson, who was imprisoned in Turkey for nearly two years.
NICK EICHER: Brunson and his wife served as missionaries to Turkey for 23 years before his arrest.
His incarceration became international news as the Turkish government accused him of spying and terrorism.
In this part of their conversation, Warren Smith asks Pastor Brunson about those claims.
WARREN SMITH: Do you have any idea how those rumors started and why they were perpetuated? Was it a part of the, sort of the propaganda to keep you in prison?
ANDREW BRUNSON: At the beginning, the government gave a number of reasons to the U S government for keeping us, but it wasn’t public and they changed. They made up all kinds of reasons and they would every two or three weeks I’d give a different reason. They were trying to find something that would stick. Once president Trump asked for me to be returned to the States when he had a summit with the Turkish president in may of 2017, then the Turkish response to that from the government, they had a day when they weren’t sure what to do. And then the next day is like the mouth of hell opened. And, all of these things started to come out in the newspapers and on the television, a lot of stories. And they came from the government about at least 90 percent of the Turkish, media is related to the Turkish government at this point.
And so it was orchestrated and driven by the Turkish government. They said I was part of the PKK, which was a Kurdish, terror movement. They, as you mentioned that I was a special forces officer, that I had many special forces officers under me. Our goal there was to, dismembered Turkey. They said I was ahead of the CIA in Turkey than in the whole middle East. And they said that if I had—I was offered the directorship of the CIA if only I had been successful in the coup that took place in 2016. And then there were a lot of other inflammatory things about espionage and about my threatening to cut the heads of Turks off and, you know, things that were very inflammatory. And the reason for doing this was to paint me in a bad light and to basically present Christians as being traitors, people who hate Turkey and who are trying to hurt the country. And by doing it to me, they also preparing the way to paint the whole church in this way.
MARY REICHARD: Today is Thursday, October 24th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.
NICK EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Hillary Clinton is making a new allegation that a political candidate is colluding with Russia to steal an election.
And this has zero to do with Donald Trump.
Clinton’s target: a fellow Democrat.
Here’s Cal Thomas.
CAL THOMAS, COMMENTATOR: A new wrestling league is being promoted during TV coverage of Major League Baseball’s post-season. The ad promises more action, more spectacle and includes women as well as men going at it.
I have two candidates for their consideration: Hillary Clinton and presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard.
Last week Clinton accused Congresswoman Gabbard of being a “Russian asset” as she offered new excuses beyond the real ones for why she lost the 2016 election. In a podcast interview with David Plouffe, Clinton claimed the Kremlin is using Gabbard as a spoiler to assist in President Trump’s re-election. She made a similar assertion about Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein.
Clinton offered no evidence to support her allegations. Gabbard is a military veteran who fired back in the take-no-prisoner style of President Trump. She called Clinton “the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party.”
No parsing of words there. I’d say it’s the rhetorical equivalent of a wrestling “smackdown.”
Gabbard later tweeted at Clinton. Quoting now: “It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.”
It appears Clinton still cannot get over her 2016 election defeat. It happened because of her poor campaign, insincerity, email scandal, and abrasive personality. She also failed to campaign in key states that led to her defeat.
But she’d like to blame Jill Stein, Tulsi Gabbard and Russia.
Remember it was Clinton who, while secretary of state, came up with the idea to “reset” relations with Russia. I guess she hit the wrong button.
Larry Donnelly is an American Democrat who heads the Kennedy Summer School in County Wexford, Ireland. He said it well in his tweeted response to Hillary’s statement. Quoting now: “I voted for Hillary Clinton. I think she’s a smart, capable person who would be an infinitely better president than the man who defeated her. But her clearly orchestrated slander of Tulsi Gabbard is beneath contempt. An absolute disgrace.” End quote.
That comment, along with many others, “pins” Hillary to the mat for the obligatory three-count.
For WORLD Radio, I’m Cal Thomas.
NICK EICHER: Tomorrow on Culture Friday, we’ll talk with editor in chief Marvin Olasky about his new book “Reforming Journalism.”
And, Megan Basham reviews the new documentary film, No Safe Spaces.
That and more tomorrow.
I’m Nick Eicher.
MARY REICHARD: And I’m Mary Reichard.
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