The World and Everything in It — December 10, 2019

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning!

A bill in Congress is seeking to bridge the divide between religious liberty and LGBT rights.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Also most universities are not respecters of free speech. We’ll talk about a recent report highlighting that problem. 

Plus the value of one more day in the lives of two nonagenarian Navy buddies.

ZIMMERMAN: Yeah. Tom, Tom’s favorite words: You’ll take care of me, won’t you Jerry? I says, I’ll take care of you.

And managing editor J.C. Derrick on a life well lived.

REICHARD: It’s Tuesday, December 10th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!

REICHARD: Now here’s the news with Kent Covington.

KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Lawmakers, House lawyers clash on impeachment » Another rancorous impeachment hearing on Capitol Hill Monday, as lawmakers on the Judiciary Committee sparred with each other and with top House lawyers. 

GAETZ: The implication is that the person who wrote the report is the person that should come and present it. You weren’t elected by anybody, and you’re here giving this testimony in place of the chairman. I hope that clears up the implication.
NADLER: The gentleman does not have the time. The gentleman has been warned before. 

GOP Congressman Matt Gaetz clashing with a lawyer for Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee. Gatez argued that Intel Chairman Adam Schiff should have been at the hearing to defend his impeachment report. 

But lawyers from both sides argued the matter on Monday. Counsel for House Democrats, Barry Berke said the case against President Trump is airtight. 

BERKE: The evidence is overwhelming that the president abused his power by pressuring Ukraine and its new president to investigate a political opponent. 

But Republican Congressman Jim Jordan said Democrats clearly failed to establish any quid pro quo to support their claims that the president is guilty of bribery. 

JORDAN: They forget the fact that we have the call transcript and there was no quid pro quo. They forget the fact that two guys on the call, President Trump and President Zelensky have said repeatedly there was no pressure, no linkage, no pushing. They forget the fact that Ukraine didn’t even know aide was held at the time of the call. And they forget the fact, most important, they did nothing to get the aide released, no announcement of any type of investigation whatsoever. 

Judiciary Chairman Jerrold Nadler once again said the House should move swiftly to impeach the president, adding, “The integrity of our next election is at stake.”

DOJ watchdog releases report on FBI handling of Russia probe » The Justice Department’s internal watchdog has released its long awaited report on the FBI’s handling of the Russia probe. 

And Democrats and the White House both say the report validates what they’ve been saying all along. 

The inspector general report found—quote—“serious performance failures” up the bureau’s chain of command. It also said the warrant application to surveil Trump campaign aide Carter Page had at least 17 “significant inaccuracies or omissions.”

President Trump said Monday…

TRUMP: They fabricated evidence, and they lied to the courts, and they did all sorts of things to have it go their way. The report actually—and especially when you look into it and the details of the report—are far worse than anything I even would have imagined. 

But, the report concluded the FBI was justified in launching its investigation into possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia in 2016. It also did not find that agents were acting out of political bias against Trump. 

Democrats say that disproves President Trump’s assertion that the Russia probe was a politically motivated “witch hunt.”

Attorney General William Barr rejected the inspector general’s conclusion that there was enough evidence to open the investigation. He said the report “now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions.”

Supreme Court lets KY ultrasound law stand » The Supreme Court on Monday left standing a Kentucky ultrasound law. WORLD Radio’s Kristen Flavin has more. 

KRISTEN FLAVIN, REPORTER: The “display and describe” law requires abortionists to perform an ultrasound, describe the results and let a woman hear her baby’s heartbeat before having an abortion.

The American Civil Liberties Union had challenged the law, saying it violated the free speech rights of abortion providers.

But the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the law. It said “As a First Amendment matter, there is nothing suspect with a state’s requiring a doctor, before performing an abortion, to make truthful, non-misleading factual disclosures.”

Supreme Court justices did not comment on the decision not to review the appeals court ruling. 

Enforcement of the law had been on hold pending the legal challenge. But the state will soon begin enacting the new requirements. 

Reporting for WORLD Radio, I’m Kristen Flavin. 

Dozens feared dead after New Zealand volcano erupts » A volcano erupted on an island off the coast of New Zealand Monday, unleashing scalding steam on tourists exploring the moon-like surface. Dozens are missing and presumed dead. Officials have confirmed at least five deaths. 

Eighteen others escaped, though some had severe burns.

Deputy police commissioner John Tims said some of those caught in the eruption arrived aboard a Royal Caribbean cruise ship. 

TIMS: Both New Zealanders and overseas tourists are believed to be involved. We believe a number of these tourists have come from the Ovation of the Seas cruise ship. 

In a statement, the cruise line said “We will offer all possible assistance to our guests and local authorities. Please keep all those affected in your prayers.”

The eruption sent a plume of steam and ash about 12,000 feet into the air. Hours later, police said the site was still too dangerous for rescuers to search for the missing. But an aerial search found no signs of life.

Police said “based on the information we have, we do not believe there are any survivors on the island.”

Russia hit with 4-year ban over doping scandal » The World Anti-Doping Agency hit Russia with an unprecedented punishment Monday over the country’s doping scandal. 

The agency’s president, Craig Reedie told reporters… 

REEDIE: “The consequences include the banning of Russia from the Olympics, Paralympics, and World Championships run by all code signatories for four years.

He said the agency’s executive committee unanimously adopted the punishment recommended by an independent panel. 

Reedie added that—quote—“Russia was afforded every opportunity to get its house in order … but it chose instead to continue in its stance of deception and denial.”

Russian athletes can still compete in major events, but only if they are not implicated in positive doping tests or if their data was not manipulated. And they cannot compete under the Russia flag. 

I’m Kent Covington. Straight ahead: a bill that promises fairness for all. Plus, a life-long friendship that united two families through three generations. This is The World and Everything in It.

MARY REICHARD: It’s Tuesday the 10th of December, 2019. You’re listening to The World and Everything in It and we are glad you are!  Good morning, I’m Mary Reichard.

NICK EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. First up: a proposed compromise on a seemingly intractable issue.

Special LGBT legal protections have passed in 20 states as well as the District of Columbia. These laws are known as SOGI laws. That’s an acronym for sexual orientation and gender identity, SOGI, and they treat SOGI categories as protected classes equal to race, color, religion, and biological sex. 

SOGI laws prohibit discrimination against those who place themselves in these categories in the areas of employment, housing, and, in some states, public accommodations.

REICHARD: Last spring, House Democrats approved the federal equivalent of a SOGI law, named the Equality Act. But it doesn’t treat everyone equally: The bill doesn’t consider religious rights and has almost no exemptions for religious people. So some lawmakers and religious groups are looking for a compromise.

On Friday, a Utah congressman filed a bill supporters say will strike a balance between upholding religious liberty and protecting those who identify as LGBT. 

It’s called the Fairness for All Act. But as WORLD Radio’s Sarah Schweinsberg reports, the bill faces opposition from both sides.

SARAH SCHWEINSBERG, REPORTER: At a press conference at the Utah state capitol yesterday, Republican Congressman Chris Stewart touted the benefits of the Fairness for All Act.  

STEWART: We believe that every American should be treated with dignity and respect. We also believe that there’s enough room that we can protect those who have sincerely held religious beliefs. 

The Fairness for All Act or the FFA would make sexual orientation and gender identity protected classes under the federal Civil Rights Act. But unlike the Democrats’ Equality Act, Stewart said his bill balances those protections with exemptions for religious organizations and medical professionals. 

STEWART: That’s the beauty of this is we really believe that it doesn’t give concessions on either one. It truly does protect both. 

So far, eight other Republicans in the House have co-sponsored the bill. But no Democrats have signed on. And no Senate lawmakers have so far been willing to sponsor a companion bill. 

The FFA approach has religious supporters. They include the First Amendment Partnership, the Center for Public Justice, the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, the Latter Day Saints, and the Council for Christian Colleges & Universities—also known as the CCCU. 

Last year the National Association of Evangelicals initially backed a Fairness for All effort, but backtracked after an outcry from members. 

CCCU president Shirley Hoogstra says in addition to protecting religious liberty, the Fairness for All Act builds bridges between LGBTQ Americans and religious groups. 

HOOGSTRA: The reason why people of faith should be on board with this is because we can make a statement to our LGBT neighbors that we actually want their wellbeing. And America can actually encompass both religious belief and LGBT wellbeing. 

But the FFA also has plenty of critics. LGBTQ advocacy groups such as the Human Rights Campaign and GLAAD oppose the bill. They say they will never support legislation that protects what they call discrimination in the name of religion

Leading religious conservatives have also long opposed the idea. In 2016, more than 75 Christian leaders signed a statement calling the plan a “serious threat.” They worry the bill doesn’t do nearly enough to protect religious liberty and puts many more people at risk of becoming the next Jack Phillips. 

Critics also take issue with the idea that widespread discrimination against LGBTQ people is happening. 

KAO: Passing bad legislation and exempting yourself from it. It’s not good public policy. 

Emilie Kao is a scholar at the Heritage Foundation. She says the bill is flawed because it allows religious organizations to live out their values while forcing almost everyone else in the public square to live by LGBTQ beliefs. 

KAO: What Fairness for All does is it reduces freedom to something that can only be practiced within the four walls of a church or a Christian college. And that’s not what religious freedom is.

Kao says a federal SOGI bill—even in the form of the Fairness for All Act—would have a wide range of consequences.  

KAO: If you are a woman or girl and you want to have privacy and safety in a locker room or a gym or shower in a public facility, you’d still be impacted. If you don’t want to follow preferred pronoun policies at work or at school… all people would be subjected to this new kind of orthodoxy. And the same thing goes for employers. 

Mary Beth Waddell is a legislative aid with the Family Research Council. She says the FFA also treats mere disagreement as discrimination. And it makes a key concession about the Biblical view of marriage and gender. 

WADDELL: Anytime you address sexual orientation and gender identity in legislation and you’re changing civil rights law, you are saying that a traditional view of marriage and of human sexuality are discriminatory and bigoted.

The bill won’t come up for a vote anytime soon. But the debate over its provisions could be the next major front in the conflict between religious liberty and LGBTQ advocacy.

For WORLD Radio, I’m Sarah Schweinsberg reporting from Salt Lake City, Utah.

NICK EICHER: Coming up next on The World and Everything in ItFree speech on campus. Or, lack thereof. 

A report that’s just been released highlights a disturbing trend: that colleges and universities in this country are violating students’ First Amendment rights.

The organization that produced the report is known by the acronym F.I.R.E,  Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. Each year the nonprofit group compiles a report on the status of free speech in American higher education.

MARY REICHARD: This year’s analysis showed some discouraging results: only 1 in 10 schools earned the highest rating for respecting constitutionally protected rights of students. 

Laura Beltz is a senior program officer with F.I.R.E. She is the lead author of this year’s study and joins us now to talk about it. 

Good morning, Laura!

LAURA BELTZ, GUEST: Good morning! Thanks for having me.

REICHARD: Well, another way to look at this is that so many colleges and universities have actual written policies that restrict free speech on campus. A quarter of them, I believe. What are some examples of these restrictions?

BELTZ: Sure. So those worst examples that quarter represents—the ones that earn a red light rating—are things like bans on insulting or embarrassing speech, offensive speech, bans on material that is annoying the sole judgment of the university, the policy actually says. And then you have requirements in policies that say things like you have to get permission at least two weeks in advance in order to just hand out flyers on campus. So, altogether when you have policies like that that are restricting the content of the speech and how you can get out and express yourself, students are discouraged and even prevented from expressing themselves.

REICHARD: Those policies are blatantly unconstitutional, right? So why do schools keep writing them?

BELTZ: Well, I think a lot of times the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing. One department at a school will bring out a policy—maybe they don’t run it by the legal office—and perhaps they’re not quite aware of First Amendment legal standards. So, it’s our goal with the report to shine a light on all these policies to make sure that universities are aware of what is on the books and so that they can get them fixed up to better meet First Amendment standards.

REICHARD: Some of our listeners likely have students at Christian colleges and universities. Those schools are private and they aren’t legally bound to comply with free speech protections. Tell us what you found about the state of free speech at private schools as compared to public schools?

BELTZ: Well, most private schools do promise their students free speech in their written materials. And so when colleges say that they will have free speech rights on campus, they are morally obligated to uphold those rights and sometimes they’re even legally obligated to do so because courts have found that a student handbook and other written materials act as a sort of contract between a school and their students. But, unfortunately, private schools are doing worse than public schools as far as the protection of free speech. And we’re seeing many more private colleges getting that worst red light rating.

REICHARD: What’s driving that?

BELTZ: Well, of course the private schools aren’t legally bound by the First Amendment, so I think they feel less of that pressure. And at public schools, there’s the added pressure of state legislatures getting on their case about this. A lot of state legislatures have passed statutes banning certain types of speech codes like free speech zone policies, which makes students go to a particular out of the way area on campus if they want to hold a protest or hand out flyers, things like that. But the private universities just don’t have that same pressure.

REICHARD: Your report documented some good news, too. We should talk about that. That’s in regard to something called the Chicago Statement. What is that and how is it changing how schools treat free speech over the past year?

BELTZ: Well, the Chicago statement is a policy that was first passed by the University of Chicago that affirmatively commits a college to actively prioritizing and defending free speech. And it actually makes clear that it is not the proper role of the university to attempt to shield individuals from ideas and opinions they find unwelcome, disagreeable, or even deeply offensive. And the statement in that way encourages students to engage with ideas that they disagree with rather than trying to censor those ideas. So, we think it’s great that there are many universities—both public and private—that are adopting their own version of this statement because it really sets the right tone for free speech on campus.

REICHARD: Laura Beltz is with the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. Thanks so much for joining us today!

BELTZ: Thanks very much for having me.

NICK EICHER: The town of Adrian, Michigan, is a small town, and you can be forgiven if you can’t find it on a map. 

But right now it’s probably visible from space! At least at sundown. 

That’s because the town just flipped the switch on an incredible Christmas display—shattering the world record for most illuminated Christmas trees…

BERRYMAN: With 676 trees!

That’s the former mayor. Jim Berryman. He started the tradition six years ago. 

And when the Hallmark Channel set the previous record in 1995, lighting up 559 trees in Manhattan, Berryman thought breaking that record would be a great way to bring his town together. He told TV station WNWO…

BERRYMAN: As you can see tonight, that has really happened, and that warms my heart.

Berryman added in order to avoid risking a record for world’s highest electric bill—all the lights are LEDs.

It’s The World and Everything in It.

NICK EICHER: Today is Tuesday, December 10th. Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day. Good morning. I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD: And I’m Mary Reichard. Coming next on The World and Everything in It: An unusual friendship.

Two Navy buddies: Jerry Zimmerman and Tom Nakamura. They first met when they were 17 years old—right after World War II. This past November, they got together with their families. WORLD Reporter Anna Johansen was there and brings our story.

ANNA JOHANSEN, REPORTER: How would you describe Tom Nakamura when you first met?

ZIMMERMAN: You wish you could be that calm, that smooth. You couldn’t, you couldn’t upset him if you tried. 

JOHANSEN: What was your first impression of Jerry Zimmerman?

NAKAMURA: Boy, he’s really tall. But then he had this easy going manner about him that kind of attracted me to him, you know?

ZIMMERMAN: There was an intensity. It was almost like a brotherhood. 

They’ve been friends for 72 years. Today, they’re meeting in person for probably the last time.

JAMIE: Hi, I’m Jamie and this is Charlotte. 

And their great-grandchildren are meeting for the first time. One-year-old Hank and one-year-old Charlotte.

JAMIE: Can you say hi, Mr. Zimmerman?

ZIMMERMAN: I didn’t think you’d be bringing the baby. I was hoping!

Right now, there are four generations in this room: it’s the legacy of a lifelong friendship.

Jerry Zimmerman and Tom Nakamura met in the Navy, right after World War Two ended. Zimmerman: Six-foot midwestern boy from Wisconsin. Nakamura: Japanese-American from a peach ranch in California. He spent three and a half years in an internment camp. And almost the minute he got out he enlisted. 

NAVY MUSIC AND RECRUITING AD: There are specialists in aerial photography, motion pictures, news photos of Navy events.

Zimmerman and Nakamura both landed in Pensacola, Florida, to get trained as aerial photographers.

ZIMMERMAN: I had never met a Japanese American before. I had never heard about internment camps until visiting with him.

NAKAMURA: I was Japanese American. You feel kind of a prejudice. But then when I met Jerry, he didn’t see me as Japanese or anything. He just saw me as a Navy buddy.

Nakamura says Zimmerman was his rescuer. When they’d go out on liberty, Nakamura would drink hard liquor. A lot of it. Then he’d wake up back at the barracks wondering, “How did I get here?” 

ZIMMERMAN: Yeah. Tom, Tom’s favorite words: “You’ll take care of me, won’t you Jerry?” I says, “I’ll take care of you.”

Neither one had any photography experience, so there was a steep learning curve. Zimmerman recalls what it was like taking surveillance pictures out of a plane. You’d pull back the canopy, stand up, and lean out over the side. 

ZIMMERMAN: I found out myself, you get off too far in the slipstream, you almost lose the camera, the warning was you better bring back the handles if you lose the camera. [laughter]

NAVY MUSIC AND RECRUITING AD: Out there, on every ocean of the earth, the Navy was ready to take us aboard. And now, we were ready to go.

One day, close to graduation, they all got blank white envelopes with their duty assignments inside. 

ZIMMERMAN: So we don’t know until we open up the envelopes where we are going and what our duty is going to be. 

But everyone knew that Tom Nakamura was the number one student in the class, so he should get the best assignment. Another buddy, Dick Weston, asked Nakamura to trade.

ZIMMERMAN: And Tom’s thinking about it. And I said, “Tom, don’t do it.” I said, “you got number one.” I says, “Dick knows what’s going on.” And “Oh no, no,” Dick says, “let’s just trade.” So they traded envelopes.

But this was right after World War Two. Zimmerman says many of the instructors served in the South Pacific. They fought the Japanese. So Tom Nakamura had been assigned to an island in the middle of nowhere. And Dick Weston had gotten a prime aircraft carrier. Of course, that was before they traded.  

NAKAMURA: [laughing] I says, “Oh, I’m glad we switched orders.” 

ZIMMERMAN: That was funny at the time, but it took me years to think this over, that…these instructors still had something inside them, a prejudice against the Japanese and they were punishing him for being a Japanese American by giving him the lowest, the worst envelope out of the whole deal.

When they both got out of the service in 1948, Nakamura moved to Chicago and Zimmerman back to the Milwaukee area. Every Christmas, Nakamura went to visit Zimmerman and his family. He’d always been a Buddhist, but he started to notice a difference in the way Zimmerman lived.

NAKAMURA: And then that’s when I found out about, what is this Christmas all about…It’s celebrating a birthday. I says, “whose birthday is it? Oh, Jesus Christ.” I said, Oh, “I used to swear that name all the time in the Navy.”

He became a Christian in 1950. And their friendship continued to thrive. When Zimmerman’s son was born, he named him Tom.

TOM ZIMMERMAN: It’s not Thomas, it’s Tom. 

That’s Tom Zimmerman.

TOM ZIMMERMAN: I’m named for Tom Nakamura. And it’s sunk in over the years, more and more of who he is and what that means. 

He says he could always ask his “Uncle Tom” anything about the Bible.

TOM ZIMMERMAN Over the years he’s been a go to a number of times when I’ve had a question about a topic like baptism or creation or those kinds of things. And I know I can just go to Uncle Tom because he’s thought deeply about all of them.

Today is probably the last time all four generations will be here together. Nakamura lives in California, and the cross-country trek isn’t easy. Both Zimmerman and Nakamura are 91 years old.

ZIMMERMAN: Yeah, the back is 24 hours pain, you know. 

NAKAMURA: Are you taking pain killers?

ZIMMERMAN: I say that I’m ready to go tonight and I pray with good reason to go tonight, but I always find one more reason that I’m happy I lived one more day. I wouldn’t have wanted to miss today. 

NAKAMURA: 72 years.

Zimmerman’s son Tom says he’s committed to continuing the friendship. He still keeps in touch with Nakamura’s daughters. He wants people to know that, even through war and internment camps and decades and distance—there came an enduring good, and a legacy that will span generations.

For WORLD Radio, I’m Anna Johansen reporting from Waukesha, Wisconsin.

ANNA JOHANSEN: Before I go, I have one more thought I’d like to add: and it has to do with the team here at WORLD. 

You know, I’m still the new kid on the block, but I feel so blessed to be doing such meaningful work. I got entrusted with driving up to Wisconsin, meeting Jerry Zimmerman and Tom Nakamura, and then telling their story. And it was such a privilege to get to do that.

But I couldn’t do it without the whole team here at WORLD.

Last year I was an intern. The year before, I was a student at the World Journalism Institute. And WORLD continues to invest in me—every single day. My colleagues help me grow as a journalist and sharpen my radio skills so I can tell these kinds of stories and so many others.

And I want you to know that WORLD wouldn’t be able to do this without your support.

Your generous giving is proof that our vision for sound journalism, grounded in God’s word, is also your vision.

And I’m really glad that’s true. As a young journalist, I’m so glad that so many like you are willing to invest in this work.

I’m Anna Johansen, and this is WORLD’s December Giving Drive. Would you take a moment and visit That’s where you can make a year-end gift to help us go into 2020 strong. Thanks so much.

NICK EICHER: Today is Tuesday, December 10th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD: And I’m Mary Reichard. WORLD Radio’s J.C. Derrick now with some thoughts on personal influence and a life well lived.

J.C. DERRICK, MANAGING EDITOR: Recently a small map in my ESV study Bible caught my attention. It marked the area where the ministry of Jesus took place. 

And it was remarkably small. Towns we recognize from the gospels—like Nazareth, Capernaum, and Bethsaida—are bunched near the Sea of Galilee. 

Today we think of Israel as a small country, but Jesus spent most of his ministry in a significant subset of even that. The first-century region of Galilee would comfortably sit inside the U.S. state of Rhode Island. 

And yet, from there Jesus changed the world. 

He did it without the modern-day metrics we often use to measure influence: He did not have millions of Twitter followers, and He did not write a bunch of bestselling books.

He changed the world, of course, because the power of God was evident in everything He did. Because He was God… fulfilling the redemptive plan set in motion before time began.

Now, we’re not God, obviously, but I think there’s a takeaway here. If Jesus could accomplish so much so close to home, why do we often think we need a bigger stage? Why do we think our spheres of influence aren’t enough? 

I thought about that map in my Bible last week when my wife’s family made some sad news public: My father-in-law has ALS, Lou Gehrig’s disease. 

As the news rippled through their network of friends, literally hundreds of well-wishes and prayers came flooding in. 

But that’s not all. There was also a steady stream of people who said something like: Your parents were there for me during one of the most difficult times of my life. 

One said: Your dad showed me what to look for in a godly husband. 

Another one wrote on CaringBridge—quote—“I cannot begin to tell you what you did for me while I was 16 and 17… You changed my life… Since then, when I have been asked to think of someone who early on represented Christ to me, I always think of you… By my back door hangs the plaque that you gave me when I married 46 years ago.”

My in-laws are seeing the reward of spending more than 50 years investing in people, through church involvement, military service, and 15 years of full-time ministry.

And it’s funny, they’ve achieved enormous influence without ever publishing a book. They’re not bloggers. They’re not even on Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram.

What they have done is write a lot of letters, emails, and thank you notes. They’ve hosted countless people in their home. They’ve spent a lot of time listening, teaching, and counseling… often one person at a time. 

It’s the kind of stuff any of us could do, but few of us actually do. The good news is there’s no reason we can’t. And there’s no time like the present to start. 

For WORLD Radio, I’m J.C. Derrick.

NICK EICHER: Tomorrow, a historical perspective on current impeachment efforts. We’ll talk to a veteran of the last attempt to unseat an American president.

And, we’ll introduce you to a young widow learning to lean on God—through a bittersweet holiday season.

That and more tomorrow. 

I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD: And I’m Mary Reichard.

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