The World and Everything in It — April 14, 2020

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning!

Most schools have gone online, and everyone’s making do. But all of the changes related to coronavirus are hitting some people harder than others.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Also how the Supreme Court plans to handle all its postponed cases.

And how new moms are having to deliver babies these days.

And social distance from the front porch.

REICHARD: It’s Tuesday, April 14th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!

REICHARD: Now the news with Kent Covington.

KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Deadly storms sweep through the south » Severe weather has swept across the South from Easter Sunday into Monday morning—killing at least 30 people. At least 40 tornadoes ripped apart hundreds of homes and buildings across several states.

Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards toured the destruction in and around the city of Monroe.

EDWARDS: I was personally stuck by just how much damage we saw today in Ouachita Parish. 

Although twisters damaged or flattened hundreds of homes in the area, officials there reported no fatalities.

But 11 people died in neighboring Mississippi and six more in northwest Georgia. And South Carolina Senator Tim Scott said Monday that storms had a “devastating impact on [his] state.” 

SCOTT: In Seneca County we’ve lost at least one life; Hampton County, at least three deaths. Over 274,000 living in the Carolinas without power in the midst of a pandemic.  

Officials reported five more fatalities in South Carolina for a total of nine. First responders also pulled bodies from damaged homes in Arkansas and North Carolina.

Navy sailor from coronavirus-infected aircraft carrier dies » A sailor from an aircraft carrier stricken by the coronavirus died Monday of complications related to COVID-19. WORLD’s Kristen Flavin reports. 

KRISTEN FLAVIN, REPORTER: The sailor served on the USS Theodore Roosevelt before falling ill and testing positive for the coronavirus on March 30th. The Navy placed him in “isolation housing” along with four other sailors at the U.S. Navy base in Guam. 

Last Thursday, he was found unresponsive and was rushed to the naval hospital’s intensive care unit. The Navy did not immediately identify the sailor. 

Among the ship’s nearly 5,000 crew members, almost 600 have tested positive for the coronavirus. That includes the aircraft carrier’s now former skipper. Captain Brett E. Crozier tested positive just days after being fired for the way he expressed his concern that the Navy had done too little to safeguard his crew. Crozier’s letter voicing his concerns was leaked to the press. His superiors said he violated the chain of command. 

Officials say all of the other coronavirus patients from the Theodore Roosevelt are in good or stable condition and none are in intensive care.

Reporting for WORLD Radio, I’m Kristen Flavin. 

Trump retweets #FireFauci but White House says he’s staying » President Trump said Monday that he has no intention of firing Dr. Anthony Fauci.

That came a day after Trump shared—or retweeted—a post from a Twitter user about Fauci that ended with the hashtag “#FireFauci.” 

The nation’s top infectious disease expert appeared to anger the president in a Sunday interview. CNN host Jake Tapper asked him about a report that the White House coronavirus task force wanted Trump to call for social distancing much earlier than he did. Fauci did not dispute the report and said implementing the guidelines sooner would have saved lives. 

FAUCI: If we had right from the very beginning shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different. But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then. 

Trump then retweeted a post that said “Fauci was telling people on February 29th that there was nothing to worry about and [the coronavirus] posed no threat to the U.S. public at large.” That tweet ended with the words “Time to #fireFauci”

But the president told reporters at the White House…

TRUMP: I’m not firing him. I think he’s a wonderful guy.
REPORTER: Why did you retweet something that said fire Fauci?
TRUMP: I retweeted somebody. I don’t know. They said fire. Doesn’t matter.
REPORTER: Did you notice that when you retweeted it?
TRUMP: Yeah, I notice everything.

The president said the “#FireFauci” hashtag was just “somebody’s opinion.”

For his part, Fauci on Monday tried to walk back his remarks. He said the very first time he and Coronavirus Response Coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx formally asked the president to call for social distancing, they debated it. 

FAUCI: Obviously there would be concern by some that in fact that might have some negative consequences. Nonetheless, the president listened to the recommendation and went to the mitigation. 

He said the president also later took their recommendation to extend the guidance to 30 days.

Exec warns nation’s meat supply is in jeopardy amid shutdowns » Some food processing plants are temporarily shutting down over health concerns. And one company executive is warning that the country’s meat supply is in jeopardy. WORLD’s Anna Johansen has that story. 

ANNA JOHANSEN, REPORTER: Virginia-based Smithfield Foods announced this week that it is closing its pork processing plant in Sioux Falls until further notice. That after hundreds of employees tested positive for the coronavirus and South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem urged the company to close the plant for now.

The plant employs nearly 4,000 people. Health officials say 730 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in South Dakota and about 40 percent of them work at the plant.

But Smithfield president and CEO Kenneth Sullivan Sullivan said the company feels an obligation to help feed the country. He said—quote—“We have a stark choice as a nation: we are either going to produce food or not, even in the face of COVID-19.”

He warned in a statement—quoting here—“The closure of this facility, combined with a growing list of other protein plants that have shuttered across our industry, is pushing our country perilously close to the edge in terms of our meat supply.”

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Anna Johansen.

I’m Kent Covington. Straight ahead: a religious liberty case the Supreme Court won’t hear.

Plus, Kim Henderson sits a spell on her front porch.

This is The World and Everything in It.

NICK EICHER: It’s Tuesday, the 14th of April, 2020. We’re so glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD: And I’m Mary Reichard. Well, a busy week for the U.S. Supreme Court. Yesterday, the high court at long last announced it will take up some of the remaining oral arguments in May. It’ll be via telephone, and the media will have access. So this’ll be interesting.

And last week, the justices turned down an appeal from the Roman Catholic Church over the ban on religious ads on public buses. For years, the Washington, D.C. transit authority accepted ads both religious and non. But then in 2015 it made a new policy prohibiting ads that promote or oppose religion.

EICHER: Two years later during the Advent and Christmas season the Archdiocese of Washington wanted to put an ad on buses with a graphic of shepherds and sheep in silhouette along with the caption: Find the Perfect Gift. 

The transit agency said no. So, the church sued on First Amendment grounds. It lost in lower court, so the church appealed to the Supreme Court.

REICHARD: But the Supreme Court didn’t take the case. It turns out it just wasn’t a good candidate for review, because Justice Brett Kavanaugh recused himself—and that move left only eight justices to decide. I think this is an acknowledgement the remaining justices might split 4-4, and resolve nothing. Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote separately about the merits of this dispute. Very interesting.

EICHER: Let me quote a line you highlighted, Mary: “…the government may designate a forum for art or music, but it cannot then forbid discussion of Michelangelo’s David or Handel’s Messiah. And once the government declares Christmas open for commentary, it can hardly turn around and mute religious speech on a subject that so naturally invites it.”

REICHARD: I think the Washington Metropolitan Transit Authority might want to revise its policy, given that.

MARY REICHARD: Next up on The World and Everything in It: pregnancy in a pandemic.

NICK EICHER: In late March, some hospitals in New York City announced they would ban loved ones, birth coaches, or visitors from delivery rooms. That caught expectant families off guard.

REICHARD: Then a week later, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo reversed the policy. He said no woman would be forced to give birth alone.

That cleared up one uncertainty, yet many expectant moms still have to change plans. WORLD reporter Sarah Schweinsberg has our story.

SARAH SCHWEINSBERG, REPORTER: Annika Carson’s young sons have a lot of energy and love to explore the family’s acreage in Palmer, Alaska. 

ANNIKA CARSON: Andy is a go-getter. And Timothy is really calm. So it’s fun. They balance each other and they play really well together. 

This fall, Carson and her husband, Nate, were excited to learn they’d be adding a baby girl to the mix. 

CARSON: I’m due April 14th, so it’s coming up. 

Yeah, pretty fast. Throughout March, Annika Carson’s OB clinic implemented coronavirus precautions. As much as possible, doctors and midwives switched to telemedicine. 

CARSON: Just a video chat basically check in, making sure there’s nothing wrong, no concerns… 

And her last appointment actually took place in the parking lot.

CARSON: After my appointment with my mid-wife, she said, “Are you free this afternoon? And could you just drive over to the clinic for a quick belly check? And then she just came out to my car and she measured my belly and she checked the baby’s heart rate and took my blood pressure and checked a few things and then I was good to go. I didn’t even have to get out of the car.

After those changes, Carson began to realize her daughter’s birth might look different as well. Before, she’d had family present in the room and there immediately after. 

And now… 

CARSON: You can allow one person to come with you. They also require your attendee to wear a mask and gloves. 

Dr. Christina Francis is an OBGYN in Fort Wayne, Indiana. She says there isn’t evidence that COVID-19 is more dangerous for a pregnant woman than any other person, but precautions are still important. 

CHRISTINA FRANCIS: It really is to minimize our patient’s exposure to other people that may have the COVID virus that may not know it. And also to protect the healthcare workers as well… 

Still, some moms don’t want to risk entering hospitals. In Dallas, mom Shawn Raup gave birth to her fifth child on March 26. 

SHAWN RAUP: His name is Lane. L-A-N-E. 

She’d originally planned to have her son at a birthing clinic, but… 

RAUP: Three days before he was born, we decided to change to a home birth because even though the birth center was still a great option, we thought even a better option just keeping everyone social distancing would be a home birth. So literally the midwife came, and one assistant to my house and he was born at home.

Jeff Wright is a maternal-fetal medicine specialist in Wilmington, North Carolina. He says midwives he knows are seeing an uptick in requests for home births. But he notes expectant moms can also put their minds at ease about giving birth in a hospital. 

JEFF WRIGHT: The risk of getting COVID from going to the hospital is low. A woman’s decision about the location of the birth should be driven by her risk status and her preferences for the surroundings she wishes to give birth in and weighing the pros and cons of giving birth in the hospital or at home. 

For some first-time moms COVID-19 induced uncertainty makes weighing pros and cons more difficult. 

SARA SARGENT: Hey, I’m supposed to be going to these appointments but is it going to potentially put me at risk? 

Sara Sargent also lives in Dallas. She and her husband are expecting their first baby at the end of May. Sargent entered her third-trimester in March just as coronavirus concerns spread. Her hospital still has moms come to appointments. 

SARGENT: They just did a screening before you entered the hospital…At first it was just startling, but it did give me a sense of relief. A feeling like, Hey, people are looking out for the patients that are walking into this hospital. 

Sargent and her husband planned on taking labor and delivery and nursing classes in these final months. But like everything else, those classes are cancelled.

SARGENT: The fear of, wow, we’re going to have a baby in potentially less than eight weeks. And we haven’t been to labor and delivery classes.

Sargent says leaning on God, her doctors, and other women is helping her deal with her fears. 

Besides medical practices, the coronavirus is reshaping traditions too. Sargent was looking forward to baby showers with friends and family. Now her people are finding other ways to celebrate. 

SARGENT: People are getting very creative or innovative. Like how could we do this? Like maybe we could just have little small Zoom meetings…  or maybe everyone could send you the advice they would write down at the shower in a letter form and you could just get some mail. And so it’s been fun to think outside of the box.

So while moms are bringing life into the world in unusual circumstances—the end result remains the same. And the babies aren’t phased at all.

The night after I interviewed Annika Carson, baby Abriana Grace decided she was done waiting to make her big entrance. She arrived healthy and happy on April 3rd—nearly two weeks early.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Sarah Schweinsberg. 

NICK EICHER: Next up on The World and Everything in It: school disruptions.

Students were among the first to feel the effects of coronavirus precautions. Most schools across the country closed before businesses did. And parents quickly had to figure out how to manage their children’s school work as well as their own.

MARY REICHARD: Joining us now to talk about some of the challenges they’ve faced is Laura Edghill. She writes the weekly education roundup at Good morning, Laura!

LAURA EDGHILL, REPORTER: Good morning, Mary!

REICHARD: Nearly all K-12 schools across the nation are closed due to the pandemic. Most of them have switched to some form of distance learning.

EDGHILL: Yes, that’s exactly right. And it’s actually causing a lot of concerns. One does not simply flip a switch and start distance learning from scratch.

REICHARD: I’d imagine not!

EDGHILL: No, no, not at all. So, we are seeing more and more states though now officially closing until the end of the year. Some went early. Kansas back in mid-March said, “Yep, we’re done. We’re going until the end of the year.” But just last week Washington and Oregon made their decisions. And just over the weekend New York City announced they were indeed closing their buildings until the end of the school year.

REICHARD: That late! What are some of the challenges you’re hearing about?

EDGHILL: Well, what’s been helpful is that some of the early adopters like Kansas and even Illinois came out with comprehensive plans early on and now other states have been able to look at those plans and emulate their work. It’s not as simple as just getting devices into kids hands or even sending packets out to their homes. Students need to know how to access content digitally. Teachers need to know where to load it. And even what platform are they going to use. And it requires some comprehensive planning that, to be quite frank, a lot of school districts just have not really done at this point because they haven’t needed to. We’re already starting to hear a term coined called the “COVID slide,” which is kind of like that summer slide. We’re already anticipating that students will return to buildings at some point with learning gaps that we just—no matter what we do, we’re not going to be able to cover all of them. 

REICHARD: Well, I can imagine that this situation is particularly difficult for students with special needs. What are some of the challenges they face?

EDGHILL: Yeah, you’re right. So, the change of routine has been exceptionally hard on special ed students. That’s about 7 million students in the country or nearly 15 percent of the entire school population. So, as you can imagine, the loss of structure creates confusion and can lead to a free-for-all at home.

I talked with several families. One has a 15-year-old high functioning student with autism and his mom said, yeah, he was happy as a clam to be off school. But unfortunately, their son’s been doing more lounging around in PJs and playing video games than they would like because mom has a hard time sitting with him when she’s supposed to be working also.

I also talked with another family where dad’s a pastor, mom’s a preschool teacher, and their 16-year-old non-verbal son with autism has reverted to some really destructive behaviors in the house. Basically, anything that has a flip-top on it—like your spice jars, ranch dressing—for some reason he’s been tearing those off and breaking them and then trying to put them back together. But you can imagine the havoc that’s creating in the home with his younger siblings and just in the home environment in general.  

REICHARD: It’s a lot to handle. What are schools doing for this particular group of students?

EDGHILL: So, it’s a mix. It can range from as little contact as emails, maybe even phone calls. But maybe physical packets of materials sent to families, but all of those are really a pale replacement for an actual skilled professional working with a student. You know, some school districts are experimenting with full blown video conferencing to get therapists and social workers and teachers working with students. But, again, it’s not the same thing as being in the room with the student. 

I did talk to one administrator who pointed out a silver lining that they’re hoping to actually keep for the future, and that’s that they actually have had an easier time during this quarantine period connecting with parents for video conferencing to review their student’s individualized educational plans. So, this administrator said that due to the current conditions with people being home and being a little more flexible with their time, they’ve been able to leverage the video technology to have those meetings much more easily than they have in the past.

REICHARD: That’s one upside. Laura Edghill covers education for WORLD Digital and writes the weekly roundup called Schooled. Laura, thanks for joining us today. 

EDGHILL: It’s been my pleasure, Mary.

NICK EICHER: It truly is more blessed to give than to receive. And a movie star recently demonstrated that. 

Last Wednesday, actor and producer Tyler Perry covered the grocery bill for everyone shopping at 29 Louisiana Winn-Dixie stores during the store’s special senior hour.

AUDIO: Louisiana’s own Tyler Perry has just paid for your groceries for the day.
Yes he did. He sure did.
Oh my goodness. Thank you, thank you!

Louisiana Winn-Dixie Manager Susanne Blaylock told local tv station WAFB…

BLAYLOCK: We’ve been through hurricanes. We’ve been through floods. We’ve never been through anything like this before. It meant a huge deal for our customers that somebody from our state would be that generous to help us out. Some of them were brought to tears.

He also picked up the tab during senior hour at 44 Kroger locations in his adopted home of Atlanta, Georgia. 

Perry hasn’t commented on the donations, and reportedly asked the stores to keep the gifts anonymous. But it’s hard to keep a secret these days.

It’s The World and Everything in It.

MARY REICHARD: Today is Tuesday, April 14th. Thanks for joining us today for The WORLD and Everything in It. Good morning! I’m Mary Reichard.

NICK EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher.

The coronavirus has touched nearly every aspect of our lives: our health, economy, and travel to name a few. But the pandemic is also threatening life-long dreams, and callings. WORLD reporter Myrna Brown on how one Georgia couple is pressing on.

AUDIO: [Baby noises]

MYRNA BROWN, REPORTER: Savannah Lopez has her hands full. The petite young wife and mother holds a 10-month-old in one…

AUDIO: [Thermometer beep]

…and a thermometer in the other. For the past two weeks, this balancing act has been her daily routine. 

AUDIO: [Thermometer beep]

SAVANNAH: Every morning I have to take my temperature and normally I am holding Sophia when I do it.

Savannah is a 22-year-old nursing student, just two semesters away from graduation. 

SAVANNAH: I’ve wanted to be a nurse ever since I was about 16 years old when my brother was hospitalized for a minor surgery.

Savannah says while her mother was able to stay at the hospital with her baby brother, she saw other sick children left alone. And that broke Savannah’s heart.

SAVANNAH: And it made me really think what can I do to help me take care of these kids and I started thinking about nursing.

In February, Savannah started working as a nursing tech at Georgia’s largest children’s hospital. Unknowingly, she treated a patient who would later test positive for COVID-19. Savannah, her newly wed husband Lee, and baby girl Sophia were quarantined at their home. 

AUDIO: [Baby talk]

During the last week of their lockdown, Savannah says she felt fear for the first time during the ordeal.

SAVANNAH:I’m about to go back to work. What’s our plan going to be if I do get sick? What’s our plan going to be to keep me from bringing anything home with me, maybe on my shoes or on my clothes. 

AUDIO: Welcome Grace Lanier Live. We’re coming from our living room to your living room.

Savannah isn’t the only Lopez fighting to keep dreams alive during the unexpected interruption of the pandemic. In January her husband, Lee, began planting a new church about 30 miles from their home. 

LEE LOPEZ: We were gaining momentum, having people meet, build community between families and out of nowhere you can’t meet anymore. 

LEE HOSTING ONLINE SERVICE: When you realize that Jesus did not come to condemn you but to save you, you will realize a sense of joy starting to birth inside of you. 

Due to Georgia’s stay-at-home order, the 29-year-old Honduras native had to stop holding services in the space shared with another church. Now, his only connection with his growing congregation is online, and that makes bonding a challenge.

LEE: I have this prayer group with men. The first week everybody was very open and joking and very laid back, then last week it kind of shifted. And this week it shifted even more because by this week probably 90 percent have lost their jobs or have very minimal income coming in. So not being able to be there and put a hand on a shoulder or see eye to eye and speak about the situation has been very tough.

Lee says the adjustments have sparked an unnerving question. 

LEE: I was even asking myself, “Lord is this a sign?” 

But instead of looking back in doubt, the two say they’re determined to move forward in faith. 

AUDIO: [Garage opening]

It’s an early Saturday morning and Savannah is pulling into the garage. She’s just spent the last 12 hours back in the pediatric ER.

SAVANNAH: My first day back was a little stressful because a lot of the protocols had changed. So it’s a lot more protection that we’re wearing for each patient.

She takes just as much precaution when she’s home.  

SAVANNAH: So I always take my shoes off as I get into my garage and I leave them by our door …. Every night before I go to work, I leave the washer empty so that I can just put whatever I’ve been wearing at the hospital directly into the washing machine. I go and take a shower right away and wash my hands and hair really well.

LEE: This is her calling in life. Just like my calling is being a pastor. This is how she brings light into the world. 

Both Savannah and Lee say they’re confident God will not protect them from what He will perfect in them.

LEE: The things that the enemy means for evil, God can turn for our good.  And in this season, that’s our hope. We’re just staying grounded and connected to God for the rest of the story.

Reporting remotely for WORLD, I’m Myrna Brown in Lawrenceville, Georgia.

NICK EICHER: We’re about half-way through season two of The Olasky Interview podcast. This week WORLD Editor in Chief Marvin Olasky talks with Bible teacher and theologian Paul Miller. Miller is the author of: The J-Curve, WORLD’s 20-19 Book of the Year for accessible theology.

MARY REICHARD: Miller compares the Christian life to the capital letter “J.” So imagine the “J” as the first part of the downward curve, which represents believers called to die to many things. 

But through God’s grace, the upward part of the letter, we experience resurrection, and soar into repentance, humility, and hope. Here’s a brief excerpt.

MARVIN OLASKY: We’re talking about the role of the J curve in individuals, towards the end of the book, you go into the story of Jesus’ dying and rising. It’s not just for individuals, it’s for the church as a whole. And we’re hearing so much these days down the drain. It’s all over. How does the J curve work for the evangelical American church at this point as a whole?

PAUL MILLER: We’ve been a proud, self-confident, wealthy church and God has taken us into suffering and we no longer have the cultural megaphone. We’ve lost the cultural narrative. Secular liberalism’s cultural narrative about itself is that we are compassionate, inclusive, accepting, scientific, authentic.

And then the media’s narrative about us, about believers is we’re narrow, tight, old fashioned, judgmental. And so now we live in a world where that’s the branding being placed on us. We don’t control the public square anymore. That means suffering is coming a lot more into our families and that’s the place, that’s the journey God took his son on. And that is the journey that he’s taking us on to prepare the bride for the coming of Jesus to make us beautiful. Because it’s only as you go down to the death that you’re stripped of pride and ego and self-will.

NICK EICHER: That’s Paul Miller. To hear more of this conversation, catch this week’s edition of The Olasky Interview wherever you get your podcasts. We’ll run it in this podcast feed over the weekend.

NICK EICHER: Today is Tuesday, April 14th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD: And I’m Mary Reichard. What used to be a mainstay in homes is no longer; but WORLD commentator Kim Henderson says it’s also a state of mind.

KIM HENDERSON, COMMENTATOR: As far as self-isolation goes, I’m convinced there’s no better place to practice it than a front porch in springtime. The few I frequent have had more use in the past couple of weeks than all four seasons combined.

With proper spacing, a porch has allowed me to stay connected to my 88-year-old parents. They sit in rockers at one end, while I swing down at the other.  

But sometimes when I’m making meal drops on their porch, my dad forgets. He wants to hustle me and their lasagna through the front door before moths circling the porch light kamikaze into their den. Instead, we do a 6-step distance dance, with Mom standing in the shadows, making jokes about “breaking out of this joint.”

On sunny afternoons, I bring them news from the world beyond. Then we FaceTime relatives whose loudest attempts cannot compensate for failing hearing aids. Dad sips his sweet tea. Mom points out her blooming calla lily. It’s almost like a scene from Mayberry.

And maybe it is a scene, because we prune the porch’s borders and sweep its stage. Pair the rockers. Water the ferns. Paint the swing and plump its pillows. 

Ah, the front porch.

My own looks out on a stand of pines and a gravel driveway that’s seen its share of tail lights go their own way. We’ve watched an eclipse from under the eaves and a shooting star or two. One dry June, I made myself stop being Martha long enough to wonder over a gutter gushing with thunderstorms. 

Last week I found my husband on the front porch rocking and sipping coffee. He was wearing Saturday morning on his face, relaxed to the core.   

“Just missed it,” he said. 

“It?” I asked.

Seems he’d been watching a gray fox dig at something in the ground. Just watching. Enjoying.

Urban sprawl means most folks don’t see gray foxes from their porches. They don’t even have porches. A couple of years ago, I interviewed a lady who gained Instagram insta-fame by posting photos of her front porch swing. It was a beauty made from an antique door and hung by 3-inch thick ropes. Almost overnight, she landed 100,000 followers. Fans from Italy to Brazil still ask questions about the swing, and she told me they’re fascinated by her porch.

Housing developments these days are more likely to feature homes with garages than porches. Even when a porch does come along with a mortgage, the climate-controlled, TV-centric family room is a hard competitor. Finding the porch has to be an intentional act. 

But this is an unprecedented moment in history we’re living through. Now more than ever, a porch is something besides a covered entry. It’s a safe-distance connection to the world. 

The thing is, you don’t even have to possess one to have a porch state of mind. Just pull out some lawn chairs. Wave to the mailman. Call out to your neighbor.

Come sit a spell.

I’m Kim Henderson.

NICK EICHER: Tomorrow: Political campaigns are changing along with most everything else to deal with the coronavirus. We’ll talk to analyst Kyle Kondik about this year’s unusual race for the White House.

And, another installment in our occasional series Notable Speeches, Past and Present.

That and more tomorrow. 

I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD: And I’m Mary Reichard.

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