The World and Everything in It — June 23, 2020


MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning!

The Supreme Court and the executive branch are playing chess with DACA, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals executive order. We’ll talk about the political and legal consequences.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Also this year’s college applicants are getting a temporary reprieve from taking the SAT and ACT. But it could be a permanent change.

Plus, we’ll meet a couple married for 40 years who help others learn from their successes and their mistakes.

And WORLD’s editor in chief Marvin Olasky is really missing baseball. Today, he will count the ways.

REICHARD: It’s Tuesday, June 23rd. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!

REICHARD: Now here’s the news with Kent Covington.


KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: White House blasts Bolton as tell-all book hits shelves » The White House is taking aim at former national security adviser John Bolton as his new tell-all book hits shelves today despite a Trump administration lawsuit. 

Former Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney told Fox News: 

MULVANEY: The Wall Street Journal wrote a piece earlier this week or last week that asked what ever happened to the concept of honor in public service. Clearly, John Bolton doesn’t have any left.

White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany called Bolton a “warmonger” who “will be remembered as a failed national security adviser.”

President Trump says Bolton is breaking the law, releasing classified information in his book The Room Where It Happened. But a federal judge ruled Saturday that his administration cannot block the book from being published. 

However U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth also said Bolton “gambled” with U.S. national security and—quote—“exposed his country to harm and himself to civil (and potentially criminal) liability.” 

In an interview with ABC News, Bolton highlighted some of the claims he makes in his book. Among them… 

BOLTON: He focused on terms like China buying more agricultural products, which he said to Xi Jinping directly would help him in the farm states—a really, to me, stunning, stunning statement by a president. 

Mick Mulvaney on Monday refuted that claim. 

Bolton also said Trump did tie aid to Ukraine to investigations of political rivals, as House Democrats asserted during the impeachment trial.

U.S. coronavirus infections continue to rise » White House trade adviser Peter Navarro says the Trump administration is preparing for a possible second coronavirus wave. But he said the administration does not believe a second wave is already upon us. 

Cases are on the rise, however. The number of newly confirmed cases across the country per day has reached more than 26,000. That’s up from about 21,000 two weeks ago. And infections are speeding up in 29 states.

Florida surpassed 100,000 cases on Monday. With much of the increase centered in South Florida, Miami Mayor Francis Suarez announced new safety measures on Monday. 

SUAREZ: Everyone will have to be wearing masks in public. Right now, the mask requirement is only when you are inside, when you are in parks but are not exercising. Now it will be a public requirement.

The virus is also spreading more rapidly in Texas. Dr. Marc Boom is CEO of Houston Methodist Hospital. He said COVID-19 hospital admissions have tripled since Memorial Day to more than 1,400 across the Houston area. He predicted that in three weeks hospitals could be overwhelmed.

Boom said much of the problem is that “people have let their guard down.”

And Dr. Michael Osterholm, who heads disease research at the University of Minnesota, agrees. He told NBC’s Meet the Press:

OSTERHOLM: We just have not really, I think, gotten the message across to the public yet that this is a very serious issue, that we can’t shut down our economy, but we can’t just suddenly say we’re done with it. 

He predicted that the country will likely see—quote—“one very, very difficult forest fire of cases.”

South Korea battles “second wave” as coronavirus continues global spread » Meantime in South Korea, health officials said Monday that the country is now battling a “second wave” of infections in and around Seoul. Authorities say the new surge began around a holiday weekend in early May. 

And at a news conference yesterday, World Health Organization director-general Tedros Ghebreyesus said the virus is not slowing down.

GHEBREYESUS: Globally, the pandemic is still accelerating. It took more than three months for the first 1 million cases to be reported. The last 1 million cases were reported in just eight days. 

A global increase in testing may be part of the explanation for a rise in cases. But WHO emergencies chief Dr. Michael Ryan told reporters “We do not believe this is a testing phenomenon.” 

He said the pandemic is peaking in a number of big countries at the same time and that is largely driving the increase. 

Siberian town records record triple-digit temperature » A Siberian town with the world’s widest temperature range has recorded a new high. WORLD’s Kristen Flavin reports. 

KRISTEN FLAVIN, REPORTER: The temperature in Verkhoyansk just hit 100.4 degrees Fahrenheit amid a severe heat wave. Much of Siberia this year has had unseasonably high temperatures, leading to large wildfires.

The town of just over a thousand people is located above the Arctic Circle—about 2,900 miles northeast of Moscow.

Guinness World Records has recognized the town for the most extreme temperature range, with a low of minus-90 degrees Fahrenheit. The previous record high temperature was about 99 degrees. 

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Kristen Flavin.

FBI investigating discovery of noose in garage of black NASCAR driver » FBI investigators are working to figure out who placed a noose in the garage stall of a black NASCAR driver at Talladega Superspeedway.

Bubba Wallace is the company’s only Black full-time driver. 

PHELPS: This morning at 7:30, we notified the Birmingham office of the FBI and they are currently on site.

NASCAR President Steve Phelps told reporters Monday…

PHELPS: As we have stated unequivocally, there is no place for racism in NASCAR. And this act only strengthens our resolve to make this sport open and welcoming to all. 

The incident comes just weeks after Wallace successfully pushed the stock car series to ban the Confederate flag at its venues.

U.S. Attorney Jay Town said his office, the FBI and the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division are looking into the incident.

I’m Kent Covington. Straight ahead: a Supreme Court decision on awards in financial cases.

Plus, Marvin Olasky on missing baseball.

This is The World and Everything in It.


NICK EICHER: It’s Tuesday, the 23rd of June, 2020. You’re listening to The World and Everything in It and we are so glad you are! Good morning, I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD: And I’m Mary Reichard. The justices of the U.S. Supreme Court handed down just one opinion yesterday. The ruling affirms the Securities and Exchange Commission’s ability to recoup money from fraudsters, with some limits. 

Here, a husband and wife solicited money to build a cancer treatment center. They took in nearly $27 million dollars from investors, but never built the facility. The SEC sued and a lower court ordered the couple to return most of that money. 

The fraudsters appealed, arguing that the money calculation didn’t take into account what they’d spent on legitimate business matters.

EICHER: In an 8-to-1 ruling, the court said recouped money must benefit investors and not be greater than the profits from wrongdoing. The case now goes back to lower court with instructions to determine what that dollar amount should be. 

In his lone dissent, Justice Clarence Thomas complained the law does not give the SEC authority to do this. 

The SEC recoups more than a billion dollars every year in what’s known as “disgorgement” orders. That’s different from fines meant to punish.


NICK EICHER: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: the fight over DACA. 

In 2012, then-President Barack Obama went around Congress to create DACA, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. It protects from deportation roughly 650,000 immigrants brought to the United States as children.

MARY REICHARD: In 2017, President Trump ended the administrative amnesty, citing lack of constitutional authority to create it in the first place. President Obama had said he couldn’t change immigration law by himself. But then, he did. 

President Trump has called on Congress to pass legislation that would offer a permanent legal solution.

EICHER: But on Thursday, the Supreme Court in a five to four decision rejected the Trump Administration’s efforts to end DACA. WORLD’s Sarah Schweinsberg reports now on what’s next in the DACA saga.

SARAH SCHWEINSBERG, REPORTER: When the court upheld DACA last week, so-called Dreamers around the country celebrated. 

In San Diego, a handful of the 40,000 DACA recipients living in the area gathered outside the county administration building. 

Irving Hernandez has DACA status and works as an aerospace engineer. He told ABC-10, he’s relieved—for now. 

HERNANDEZ: For several months, you know I was living with anxiety. Sleepless nights every time that we had a potential DACA decision. We need to take our victories when we get them, enjoy them. So today belongs to us. 

The court’s four liberal justices along with Chief Justice John Roberts said President Trump’s Department of Homeland Security did have authority to halt DACA. But DHS violated procedure by failing to consider, quote—“whether to retain forbearance and what if anything to do about the hardship to DACA recipients.”

The court’s four other conservative-leaning justices argued that the protections were illegal in the first place … and said the Trump administration ended the program by the book.

That left immigration policy advocates wondering what the White House would do next. Keep the program or correct the problems and re-petition to end DACA? 

On Friday, President Trump announced his plan in a tweet, saying: “The Supreme Court asked us to resubmit on DACA, nothing was lost or won…We will be submitting enhanced papers shortly.”

Also, on Friday, White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany said the president’s next attempt will be more thoughtful. 

MCENANY: We’re going to move forward in a responsible way and cure some of the remedies and unlawfulness that we see with the previous memo that brought DACA into place, but we want to find a compassionate way to do this…

But what could continuing the quest to end DACA mean for President Trump politically? 

A Pew Research Center Poll out last week, finds nearly three-quarters of all Americans and more than half of Republicans favor giving “Dreamers” permanent legal status. 

Lora Ries is a homeland security researcher at the Heritage Foundation. She says if that’s what voters want, they need to hold their lawmakers accountable. Not the president. 

RIES: So Congress always has the authority and that’s where the proper authority lies. But for decades, Congress has not passed such legislation.

Ries says the president’s job is to execute the law. Not make it. Even if voters are unhappy. 

RIES: The Trump administration should continue to follow the rule of law and uphold that and enforce it and immigration law should not be an exception to that. 

Hiroshi Motomara is an immigration and citizenship law professor at the UCLA School of Law. He says by continuing the fight against DACA, President Trump can appeal to his base. But the courts move slowly, so it’s highly unlikely another DACA ruling will come down before the November presidential election. 

MOTOMURA: It may well be that his best political calculus is to say he’s gonna fight it, but not really succeed. That might actually be the one thing that plays to the base, but that doesn’t get the negative reaction that he might get from the American people.

Aside from immigration policies, there is something everyone can celebrate about the Supreme Court’s ruling, says Adam White. He’s a constitutional scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. 

WHITE: I think it’s a clear signal not just to the current president, but future presidents, including if the next president is Joe Biden, that policies like this need to go through a much much more rigorous process. 

White says while some of the liberal justices opposed President Trump’s policy on its merits, Justice Kennedy opposed it as a call to hold the executive office and agencies to higher standards. 

That’s something both parties may not like when their politician holds office, but something that’s appreciated when they don’t. 

WHITE: A lot of conservatives just, are disappointed with the outcome today precisely because the court is holding Trump to a standard that Obama was never held to. But I think actually the most important implications are long run. I think that judges, including the judges that have been appointed over the last three years, are going to look at opinions like this and say, we need to do a lot more to police the administrative state.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Sarah Schweinsberg.


NICK EICHER: Our response to the coronavirus made a lot of temporary changes to our lives. But some things in some cases may become permanent features.

Students taking the SAT and ACT, for example. Testing centers shut down, and students had no scores to submit with their college applications. 

So colleges started making exceptions.

MARY REICHARD: Many schools are making those standardized tests optional for the next year or two: Students who don’t submit scores won’t suffer in the admissions process.

In May, the University of California took that decision a step further. It’s going “test-optional”—permanently. WORLD Radio’s Anna Johansen reports.

LEXI TONG: I was like really stressed and really excited to get it over with.

ANNA JOHANSEN, REPORTER: This is Lexi Tong, a high school junior who signed up to take the SAT in mid-March.

TONG: I was feeling a lot of pressure because I know that the SAT…it matters how much scholarship you’ll get for college and also if you get accepted or not.

She went to the testing center on the day of the exam, but ran into a slight problem: Coronavirus shutdown.

TONG: The testing center was supposed to email you…if they were canceling it.

They didn’t. The students waited outside in the rain for 45 minutes and no one ever showed up. 

TONG: So then we’re like, Okay, I guess it’s canceled. So it’s very anticlimactic, because we just kind of said, Okay, bye and just got in our cars.

Lexi still plans to take the test. But with so many colleges going test optional, it might not actually matter.

Bob Schaeffer is the interim executive director of FairTest. He’s pushed for years to end the use of SAT and ACT scores in college admissions. So he was thrilled when he heard about UC’s decision.

SCHAEFFER: And so the University of California regents voted to be test optional for two years…And then after four years, they will not require test scores at all in any manner. 

Other colleges will bring back test scores after the pandemic ends. So why is UC doing it permanently? Schaeffer says the regents had other factors to consider.

SCHAEFFER: They were looking at the impact of the ACT and SAT in two areas. One its ability to predict how well students will perform in UC classes. And the second is its impact on the diversity of the student bodies admitted. 

Schaeffer says the tests discriminate against low income students and minority groups.

SCHAEFFER: Students who come from the wealthiest families consistently score substantially higher than those who come from middle income families, and particularly lower income families.

That’s partly because wealthier families can afford tutors and test prep courses that help boost scores. But Joseph Soares thinks it’s more than that. Soares chairs the sociology department at Wake Forest College. Wake Forest went test optional in 2009.

SOARES: It’s an example of a test where black and Latino youth will do very well in their high school grades, well enough that we are certain that they would do brilliantly in college, but they will perform badly on a standardized test, such as the SAT or the ACT.

Robert May teaches philosophy and linguistics at the University of California. He says admissions teams already consider demographics and socioeconomic status when deciding who to admit. So when the regents decided to remove SAT and ACT scores from the mix, May says the decision wasn’t practical, it was political.

MAY: They are going to be influenced, you know, by what they view as political considerations, iterations of issues where the university is seen as an entity, an institutional entity within the state of California. And in that regard, we are very much tied up with the politics of California and the politics of the nation.  

But there’s another criticism of the tests: How well do they actually predict a student’s success in college? According to Fair Test’s Bob Schaeffer, they don’t.

SCHAEFFER: ACT and SAT are great measures of multiple choice test taking skills…Now, you could argue that students who think deeply about a question, look at it from both sides, will do better in college in life. But that doesn’t get a higher score on the SAT or ACT. Students who work quickly, who guess well, who know how to play the test taking game…are the ones who score highest.

Joseph Soares says using high school GPA is a far better predictor of future college success.

SOARES: And college admissions is treated as a science when the reality is it’s still more art than science.

Soares is a bit of a statistician. He says if you combine all the factors—high school GPA, demographics, economic status—you understand about 30 percent of the factors that influence whether or not a student will graduate from college. If you add SAT and ACT scores to the mix, that number goes up by just 1 percent.

SOARES: The predictive value of one percentage point is diddly squat.

In other words, according to Soares, test scores don’t help predict future success.

At most colleges and universities, submitting a test score is still the norm. But more and more colleges have made that optional, even pre-COVID-19. And now that the University of California has joined the ranks, Robert May says others will likely follow suit.

MAY: How we go about doing our business affects others. So, I think it will have an enormous impact.

And Bob Schaeffer says the colleges that are taking a temporary break from the tests might never bring them back.

SCHAEFFER: And we’re quite confident that once schools use test optional processes, don’t rely on ACT/SAT scores anymore, they will continue with that policy.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Anna Johansen.


NICK EICHER: Receiving a package is almost always fun. But some delivery drivers go above and beyond. 

Lynn Staffieri of Delaware ordered a pet playpen from Amazon. Nothing out of the ordinary about that. But she didn’t realize that her teenage son had set some delivery instructions as a default setting on orders. 

It only became apparent when she saw the recording from the doorbell camera in a video that’s gone viral. 

And, well, here’s what happened:

AUDIO: [Knock, knock, knock] Abra cadabra!

Staffieri’s son instructed the driver to do that and clearly the driver had a great attitude about it, following the instructions to the letter—knock, say the magic words, and then run!

Staffieri thanked the driver in a Facebook post, saying she appreciated the driver’s attention to detail that made thousands of people laugh.

Then she spoke with her son and I think they probably took those instructions down.

It’s The World and Everything in It.


NICK EICHER: Today is Tuesday, June 23rd. We’re so glad you’ve joined us today on The World and Everything in ItGood morning. I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD: And I’m Mary Reichard. Coming next…

AUDIO: Mawwage. Mawwage is what brings us togetha today.

EICHER: That’s from one of my favorite movies, The Princess Bride. 

REICHARD: We got an invitation for September, when our niece gets married in Pennsylvania and we can’t wait to go!

EICHER: Well, we have one, too. It’s from one of guys I coached from kindergarten all the way through middle school—a lifelong friend of my boys. So we’re excited about that!

What a great thing for families and friends to come around and support young couples as they start their lives together. 

But so is marking milestones a great thing—honoring marriages that stand the test of time. WORLD reporter Myrna Brown recently spoke with one couple celebrating 40 years this summer. Here’s their story:

GREGORY SAMUELS: Ok, try this. It’s called meditation. See if you like this one.

MYRNA BROWN, REPORTER: Sitting next to each other in their Chattanooga, Tennessee home, Greg and Jackie Samuels are doing what they’ve always done as a married couple.  

JACKIE SAMUELS: When we were dating we did things together and we went into our marriage, we’re still doing things together. 

With shades of gray in her short, curly afro–and his beard, 61-year old Jackie is helping 67-year-old Greg choose music for a new video he’s creating.

GREGORY: You know, I’m a go-getter. My wife is more reserved. And so, she adds that balance in my life.  

Born in Milwaukee,Wisconsin, Greg recalls life before Jackie, more than 40 years ago; He was clean-shaven, 22 and restless.

GREGORY: I wanted to get out of the inner city so that I could go somewhere, you know, just get away from the hustle and bustle and also to really study God’s Word.

One Sunday, two missionaries from Spring City, Tennessee, showed up at his church. They had news about a Bible institute and camp surrounded by 100-acres of woods, dirt roads and a fish-filled lake.

GREGORY: I did not know the history. I did not know how strategic Cedine was. That was probably the only camp that really dealt primarily with Black Americans back in the day.  

In 1976 Greg left the streets of Milwaukee for the rolling hills of rural Tennessee. 

GREGORY: I must admit it was quite an adjustment, especially in some of those old cabins they used to have back in the day. They had open floors. You hear the crickets and all of the creatures and all of the skunks. But I adjusted, I adjusted. 

It was a similar story for Jackie. 

JACKIE: I was just finishing high school…  

She arrived at Cedine Institute two years after Greg, from Washington, D.C. 

JACKIE: I had said I knew it was going to be a small town, but I did not know it would be in the woods! And so I was just, oh Lord, what have I done? 

Greg, the first student Jackie met at Cedine, led the 18-year-old and her parents to the registration building.

GREG: And she was just huddled up, like a cocoon in the back and looking real nervous. Real young girl. And so I didn’t pay much attention to it. 

But Jackie says Greg made an impression on her parents.

JACKIE: When I got finished registering, my mother came back to the car and my mom said, you’re gonna marry that man. And I told her, no I’m not. And so two years later, I said, mom you remember that fellow with the glasses on? She said, I knew it!

He proposed to Jackie on the lake that surrounds Cedine and flows into the Tennessee River. They were married on August 16th, 1980. Once the Samuels started having children, Greg joined the army and was assigned to more than half a dozen different posts. But with each assignment, Greg noticed a troubling pattern in his new bride.

GREG: My wife was an excellent mother. We homeschooled all three of our girls.  But there was something missing, especially when it dealt with the things of the Lord. You know, she didn’t want to do things to please the Lord. She just basically wanted to do things to please herself.

Greg says he was determined to love his wife through her inconsistencies.

GREG: And here I am preaching and teaching all of the country and my wife was faithfully by my side. But she was not saved.

 JACKIE: I had known about God for more than 25 years, but I never really had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.  

Then, one day Jackie was listening to Christian radio and heard a convicting message on being a godly mother. 

JACKIE: I was listening to Adrian Rogers and so that summer of 2007, I bowed my head and asked Christ to come into my heart and be my personal Savior.

Greg was the first person Jackie called. Then she shared the news with her young adult daughters. 

GREG: What my wife did, she apologized to them for being a hypocrite basically. And then through my wife’s testimony, they cried and accepted the Lord. 

Jackie then had another hurdle to climb: regret. 

JACKIE: I told my husband I wish it wouldn’t have taken me this long  of a time. So much I have missed. But as long God allows me to live, this will be my desire to reach couples for Jesus Christ.

After a 27-year-military career, Greg retired and in 2007 the Samuels settled in Chattanooga, just one hour away from Cedine Bible Camp. 

AUDIO: [Children answering Bible questions]

Students come from all over the country for Bible quizzing and camping. 

SINGING: How great is Our God

But Greg and Jackie volunteer at the retreat center helping married couples rekindle their love for each other and for Christ. 

GREGORY: We try and be the first person they see when they get there. We work as a team. We work as a team, no doubt. 

JACKIE: We also try and visit some of the couples during the year to see how they’re doing. 

GREG: Like for instance we traveled… where did we go? We went to Cincinnati, Georgia, Tennessee a lot, too. You just don’t have these folks come to your retreats and forget about them. We want to follow up and see how they’re doing.

Part of that follow-up includes putting music to memories. 

GREGORY: A lot of times when they come off the mountain top at Cedine, they’re ready to live for the Lord as couples. And we want to renew those feelings by showing them a video of the good times they’ve had.

Good times anchored in God’s redemptive plan for marriage.

JACKIE: Because of my husband’s praying, because of his faithfulness, that’s what kept us together. Christ does make a difference in our relationships.

GREG: I’ll tell you the secret. Especially the husband, you need to know God. You need to have a personal relationship with him. And not only a personal relationship with him, your wife needs to be your best friend. 

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Myrna Brown.


MARY REICHARD: Today is Tuesday, June 23rd. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

NICK EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. In more typical times, the Major League Baseball season would be approaching the all-star break. But not this time.  WORLD editor-in-Chief Marvin Olasky reminds us of what we’re missing while baseball dallies over when to start the season.

MARVIN OLASKY, EDITOR IN CHIEF: John Rawls, the late 20th century’s most prominent liberal political philosopher, was a Boston Red Sox fan. He was born in 1921, the year after Babe Ruth joined the Yankees, and died in 2002, so he never saw the Red Sox win the World Series: that happened in 2004. 

Nevertheless, he thought baseball “the best of all games.” In 1981 he wrote a letter explaining why. I’d like to pass on his six observations.  

First, Rawls wrote, quote, “the rules of the game are in equilibrium. The distance from home to first, for example, is just right to make many plays close and double plays possible. That distance has stayed the same since the 19th century.” 

“Second: the game does not give unusual preference or advantage to special physical types, e.g., to tall men as in basketball. All sorts of abilities can find a place somewhere…..” 

“Third: the game uses all parts of the body: the arms to throw, the legs to run… contra soccer where you can’t touch the ball. It calls upon speed, accuracy of throw, gifts of sight for batting, shrewdness for pitchers and catchers, etc.…”

“Fourth: all plays of the game are open to view: the spectators and the players can see what is going on.” Rawls said in football “it’s hard to know what is happening in the battlefront along the line….”

“Fifth: baseball is the only game where scoring is not done with the ball, and this has the remarkable effect of concentrating the excitement of plays at different points of the field at the same time. Will the runner cross the plate before the fielder gets to the ball and throws it to home plate, and so on.”

“Finally, there is the factor of time, the use of which is a central part of any game. Baseball shares with tennis the idea that time never runs out, as it does in basketball and football and soccer. This means there is always time for the losing side to make a comeback. The last of the ninth inning becomes one of the most potentially exciting parts of the game.”

I’d add three more reasons. Baseball is almost always played outside, on real grass. Everyone in the lineup gets an equal chance to hit, unlike in basketball where one player can take shot after shot. Third, except for the pitcher and the designated hitter everyone has to play offense and defense, so teams cannot just field a lineup of behemoth sluggers. 

Play ball! 

I’m Marvin Olasky.


NICK EICHER: Tomorrow: The new head of the U.S. international broadcasting agency is making major changes in leadership. We’ll talk to a former director there about what could be behind the shakeup.

And, we’ll hear from Biblical archaeologists on how coronavirus shutdowns have both hurt and helped the work they do.

That and more tomorrow. 

I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD: And I’m Mary Reichard.

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