The World and Everything in It — September 25, 2020

MEGAN BASHAM, HOST: Good morning!

What does the Supreme Court tell us about feminism? We talk to Professor Katie McCoy about Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Amy Coney Barrett.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: That’s ahead on Culture Friday.

Plus an extremely popular new show that has audiences saying “wax on, wax off” again.

And your Listener Feedback!

BASHAM: It’s Friday, September 25th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Megan Basham.

BROWN: And I’m Myrna Brown. Good morning!

BASHAM: Now news. Here’s Kent Covington.

KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Trump touts healthcare plan, unveils executive orders » President Trump highlighted his vision for America’s healthcare system while stumping in North Carolina Thursday. 

TRUMP: Well, thank you very much. Thank you. 

Speaking to supporters in Charlotte, Trump again stated his desire to replace Obamacare with a GOP-authored plan. But he said his administration has improved the Affordable Care Act—doing away with its most unpopular provision, the individual health insurance mandate. 

But he also committed to keeping the most popular part of the law.

TRUMP: The historic action I’m taking today includes the first ever executive order to affirm it is the official policy of the United States government to protect patients with preexisting conditions, so we’re making that official. 

The president said he was also signing executive orders aimed at preventing surprise medical bills among other things. 

And he highlighted a new regulation to allow pharmacies and states to buy prescription drugs from Canada at a lower cost. 

He also vowed to mail prescription drug cards worth $200 each to more than 30-million Medicare recipients. Critics slammed that announcement as a naked political maneuver to curry favor with seniors.

Minutes after Trump left the podium, Democratic rival Joe Biden tweeted—quote … “The Trump Administration says ‘the entire ACA must fall.’ They are arguing to strip millions of Americans of health care in the middle of a pandemic. We can’t let him win.”

Lawmakers vow peaceful power transition with Trump noncommittal » Lawmakers from both parties assured the public on Thursday that there will be a peaceful transfer of power if Joe Biden defeats President Trump in November. 

That after Trump stirred controversy by declining to commit to such a transfer. 

Republican Senator Mitt Romney told reporters… 

ROMNEY: There’s no question but that all the people who have sworn to ensure that there would be a peaceful transition of power, including the president.

And Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell weighed in on Twitter, stating, “There will be an orderly transition just as there has been every four years since 1792.”

At the White House on Wednesday, a reporter pressed the president on whether he’ll accept the results of the election. Trump responded by again questioning the legitimacy of the election with expanded mail-in balloting.

TRUMP: Well, we’re going to have to see what happens. You know that. I’ve been complaining very strongly about the ballots. The ballots are a disaster.
REPORTER: I understand that, but people are rioting. Do you commit to making sure there is a peaceful transferral of power?
TRUMP: Well, get rid of the ballots and you’ll have a very peaceful—there won’t be a transition, frankly. There will be a continuation.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi blasted his response, calling it—quote—“very sad” that the president “would place in doubt the idea of the peaceful transfer of power.”

On Thursday, White House Press Secretary sought to clarify the president’s words.

MCENANY: The president will accept the results of a free and fair election. 

But she did not say the president would commit to trusting that the upcoming election will be free and fair. McEnany reiterated that he wants to—quote—“get rid of mass, mail-out voting,” which he has predicted will lead to increased voter fraud.

Jobless claims tick up » The number of Americans filing for unemployment aid rose slightly last week to 870,000. That as the pandemic continues to squeeze employers.

Some newly laid-off Americans are facing delays in receiving benefits as state agencies step up efforts to combat fraudulent claims. Pennsylvania has found that up to 10,000 inmates are improperly receiving aid.

The Labor Department said Thursday that the number of people who are continuing to receive unemployment benefits declined to 12.6 million. The steady decline in that figure over several months reflects that some of the unemployed are returning to work. But in other cases it means workers have exhausted their jobless aid, which last six months in most states.

Mo. governor tests positive for COVID-19 » Another governor has tested positive for the coronavirus.

DAWSON: Right now I feel fine, no symptoms of any kind. But right now we’ve just got to take the quarantine procedures in place. 

Missouri’s Republican Gov. Mike Parson announced Wednesday that both he and his wife, Teresa, have COVID-19. 

A spokeswoman said Teresa Parson had experienced mild symptoms, including a cough and nasal congestion. 

Gov. Parson postponed several events through the remainder of the week. He and his wife had been traveling around the state. A photo posted Tuesday on the governor’s Facebook page showed both he and his wife wearing masks.

Some have criticized the governor for opposing a public mask mandate in Missouri. 

Belarus government arrests hundreds protesting Lukashenko inauguration » In Belarus, police have detained hundreds of demonstrators during protests against the country’s authoritarian leader. WORLD’s Kristen Flavin has more. 

KRISTEN FLAVIN, REPORTER: Security forces used water cannons to scatter thousands of demonstrators while detaining nearly 400 more people. Dozens were injured in clashes with police. 

Alexander Lukashenko was unexpectedly sworn in to his sixth term as president after an election the opposition says was rigged.

Thousands of Belarusians flooded the streets to protest Lukashenko’s inauguration, which took place without advance public notice.

Belarus’ Interior Ministry said Thursday that police detained 364 people. Most are still jailed awaiting court hearings. 

But anti-government rallies continued in Minsk Thursday despite the crackdown—as hundreds of people chanted and formed human chains in solidarity.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Kristen Flavin.

I’m Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: feminism and the Supreme Court.

Plus, your Listener Feedback.

This is The World and Everything in It.

MYRNA BROWN: It’s Friday the 25th of September, 2020. Glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Myrna Brown.

MEGAN BASHAM: And I’m Megan Basham.

AUDIO: [Casket carried to repose]

What you’re hearing is the sound of pallbearers bringing the casket of Ruth Bader Ginsburg into the Supreme Court. Her body lay in repose for two days—Wednesday and Thursday—for the public and colleagues to pay their respects.

ROBERTS: Ruth’s passing weighed most heavily on her family, but the court was her family, too. This building was her home, too. Of course, she will live on in what she did to improve the law and the lives of all of us. And yet, still, Ruth is gone and we grieve.

Chief Justice John Roberts, delivering a eulogy this week for his colleague.

BROWN: Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s body will lie in state today in the U.S. Capitol—the first time the honor would go to a woman. She died a week ago today and her life represented not only a string of historic firsts, but also the political ideology of feminism.

Justice Ginsburg’s brand of feminism included unfailing support for abortion and she was one of the first nominees to the Supreme Court—if not the only—to state that so plainly. 

Typically, nominees would try to conceal their views on abortion or say that it was inappropriate for a judge to speak on an issue that might come before the court. 

Not so Ruth Bader Ginsburg. This is from her confirmation hearing in the summer of 1993.

GINSBURG: It is essential to women’s equality with men that her choice that she be the decision-maker. This is something central to a woman’s life, to her dignity, and when government controls that decision for her, she’s being treated as less than a fully adult human responsible for her own choices.

BASHAM: She won Senate approval 96 to 3. Virtually every Republican voted in the affirmative—one of them Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah.

HATCH: I disagree with you on a number of things, and I’m sure you disagree with me. But that isn’t the issue, is it? And frankly, I admire you. You’re earned the right, in my opinion, to be on the Supreme Court.

It is highly doubtful her successor will receive the same deference.

FEINSTEIN: You are controversial. Let’s start with that.

That’s not where Senator Diane Feinstein ended in her questioning of the woman who seems to be the front-runner to replace Ginsburg: Federal Appeals Court Judge Amy Coney Barrett. This is from a Senate confirmation hearing three years ago.

FEINSTEIN: When you read your speeches the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you and that’s of concern.

BROWN: Meaning, she seems committed to her faith. Barrett’s response:

BARRETT: If you’re asking whether I take my faith seriously and I’m a faithful Catholic, I am—although I would stress that my personal church affiliation or my religious belief would not bear in the discharge of my duties as a judge. It’s never appropriate for a judge to impose that judge’s personal convictions, whether they derive from faith or anywhere else on the law.

It’s Culture Friday and so let’s welcome in Katie McCoy. She’s assistant professor of theology in women’s studies at Southwestern Seminary.

BASHAM: Good morning, Katie!

KATIE MCCOY, GUEST: Good morning, Myrna and Megan! How are you both?

BASHAM: Of course, we won’t find out until tomorrow night President Trump’s choice to fill the vacancy left by the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And of course we don’t know whether it’s going to be Amy Coney Barrett, but we do know he’s committed to a female nominee.

What I think it’s safe to assume here, though, is that whomever this president chooses will represent a break from the Ginsburg 1960s and ’70s model of feminism.

The president’s nominee, when she went to law school, did not face the same obstacles Ginsburg faced, so she would’ve followed the trail Ginsburg blazed, but she took a different turn.

Isn’t that a good thing: more choice, not less, including the choice to reject a particular brand of feminism?

MCCOY: Well, you would think so, and in theory yes. The label “feminist” historically includes quite a broad swath of different beliefs. Some of the first feminists—like Susan B. Anthony—were against abortion and they simply wanted legal parity with men: the right to vote, legal protections for victims of domestic abuse, access to education. Those types of legal rights. But in the last few years, I’ve observed something really interesting. There’s this rebranding effort among self-identified feminists and they claim that the whole point of feminism from the beginning was that women would have the choice to be who and what they wanted to be.

So, if a woman wanted to be a stay at home mom, that she had the freedom to choose that. That’s really, though, a revisionist history because historically, especially second wave feminism—women who didn’t conform to that party line of what mainstream feminism was saying, they were viewed as repressed, brainwashed into participating in their own oppression, and for that you only have to look at academic women’s studies courses to see that it was an activistic type of study. It’s not really to objectively learn information. It is political in nature. So, at the risk of oversimplifying this issue, I think this all does hinge on the issue of abortion. When it comes to abortion and everything that that industry represents, mainstream feminism is almost militantly exclusionary. Think back to the Women’s March of 2017, there were so-called pro-life feminist groups that wanted to be part of it and they were excluded from even being partners because they were against abortion. 

So, regarding Amy Coney Barrett, we’re already seeing the most nasty attacks. One major publication comparing her Catholic faith to the Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood. It’s not just religion in general, right? Where we see this kind of vitriol. Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s Judaism wasn’t a point of contention in her place in the court. So, it  seems it really does come down to being pro-life in general but a pro-life Christian in particular. And that vilification of the Christian faith, by the way, and its value of the unborn goes back to at least the 1950s—pre-feminism—when Simone de Beauvoir blamed Christianity for endowing the fetus with a soul. So, the fact that abortion was viewed as a moral wrong was essentially Christianity’s fault. So, pro-life Christianity has historically been incongruent with ideological feminism.

BROWN: All of us in this discussion are women who pursued paid work in the marketplace. But I want to talk a bit about the late justice Ginsburg’s place in history.

One of her law clerks wrote, “The life lessons she imparted gave me the courage to take a step back from my own career and choose for this moment in time, to be more present for my three children.”

And Christian singer/songwriter Amy Grant tweeted, “My daughters are growing up in a different world than I did. Thank you Ruth. We will keep telling your story because you inspire each of us to use our unique gifts, talents, voices to speak truth, love justice and live humbly.

Conversely, one of our listeners commented, “No matter how smart, hard working and powerful she was, by supporting abortion she did evil in the sight of the Lord.”

And then this perspective, “Even if one was bold and steadfast over her career, if her work was at the detriment of the most vulnerable in our society, that work should not be wholly celebrated or revered.”

So, when talking to your students about Justice Ginsburg and her place in history, what will you say about her?

MCCOY: I’m so glad you brought up this up, Myrna, because whether it’s the founding fathers or particular theologians and now Justice Ginsburg, we all seem very prone in our society today to summarize one’s life about one issue. Now, that’s not minimizing that one issue at all. It’s central to our values as believers—the sanctity of life—but, you know, this is where theologically I think the doctrine of common grace really helps us think through this question.

The doctrine of common grace that God gives grace to the unbeliever who is a cancer researcher to find some type of cure for cancer that benefits all of humanity, to the teacher, the university professor, the engineer, someone who contributes to society that benefits all, benefits the whole uses the mind, the spirit that God gave them for something that is good. And many of the cases, many of the issues that Ruth Bader Ginsburg was advocating for, she was bringing her intellect and skill to overturn policies and practices that were genuinely discriminatory against women. And it’s hard to believe that not too long ago, women couldn’t get a mortgage or apply for a credit card without a male co-signer. Not all states recognized marital rape as a crime. There were inequitable benefits for women in the military. A woman could lose her job if she were pregnant.

So, we can look at the disparities that had existed and appreciate Ginsburg’s work. They were genuine, legal inequities that regarded women as having fewer legal rights than men. But here’s what I would want my students to see if I were talking to them: We advocate and affirm the legal, equal rights of all people because we are all equal image bearers of our creator. And that is an inviolable dignity that we have before him and therefore our laws should reflect that. And then that dignity, though, extends to all persons, including the unborn.

You mention that quote in her Senate confirmation hearing, when she said that to outlaw abortion means that the government who’s treating women as less than fully human adults that are responsible—the irony of that, though, is how many laws do we have where the government controls, or at least stipulates, what its citizens can and can’t do through laws, right? We can’t cheat on our taxes, we can’t perjure ourselves in court, we can’t commit murder. I mean, how is that not the government treating us as less than fully human adults? So, certainly in Ginsburg’s own ruling, she imposed moral expectations on people. I think it just shows one of the many inconsistencies to pro-abortion arguments and legislation. 

That being said, I think we can, I think we should appreciate the intellect and skill and contribution of a woman who recognized where something was objectively wrong and worked to correct it. And with that, we can recognize where she fell short of that, where she failed at it, and where she perpetuated an injustice against the unborn.

BASHAM: I think that’s a good note to end on. Katie McCoy is assistant professor of theology in women’s studies at Southwestern Seminary. Professor McCoy, thanks so much for being here.

MCCOY: Always great to be with you all.

MYRNA BROWN: Something just happened in the music recording industry that hasn’t happened in a long time, not since the 1980s. 

Those of a certain age will remember when vinyl records largely gave way to cassette tapes. That was before sales of CDs overtook both cassettes and vinyl. 

And then of course, the mp3 came along and you  know the rest. But, one of those old formats is making a big comeback. It seems many Americans are nostalgic for this sound:

AUDIO: [Sound effects of vinyl]

For the first time in several decades, vinyl records outsold CDs in the United States. The Recording  Industry Association of America reported $232 million in vinyl sales during the first half of 2020. That made up “62 percent of total physical” format revenues. 

Megan, what was the first vinyl record (or CD) you ever bought?

BASHAM: You know, I’m going to be honest, Myrna, I don’t know that I ever bought a record.

BROWN: Oh no! Can I tell you mine?

BASHAM: What was yours?

BROWN: OK, Michael Jackson, Off the Wall, 1979!

BASHAM: Well, that’s a good one!

BROWN: And I think I still have it!

It’s The World and Everything in It.

MYRNA BROWN: Today is Friday, September 25th. Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day. Good morning. I’m Myrna Brown.

MEGAN BASHAM: And I’m Megan Basham. Coming next on The World and Everything in It: A lot of people are getting a kick out of a classic 80s movie reboot.

A few years ago, YouTube made a late, half-hearted attempt to enter the streaming game. Most of its scripted series were flops. But when it rebooted Karate Kid with the original two stars (whom America had barely heard from in decades), its gamble paid off with a sleeper hit. A Netflix sale followed. And since Cobra Kai debuted on that platform last month, it has become the most popular show in the country.

CLIP: What do you think you’re doing. Promoting my business. Why don’t you try minding yours. Minding mine? You know what. This is ridiculous. We can both be adults. I just don’t know why you’d ever want to bring back Cobra Kai after what your sensei did you. Because I’m not Creese. And the lessons worked. Strike first. No Mercy. Real good lessons. 

It would be hard to find another 80s update that’s even half so clever. We catch up with Johnny Lawrence, the high school bully who inspired a thousand tousled-blond copycats, in middle age. He might’ve been the big man on campus at 17, but at 50, he spends his days in an alcoholic haze, zoning out on Reagan-era macho movies, trying to block out the fact that his nemesis, Daniel LaRusso, now owns a successful car dealership.

About as elegant and introspective as the heavy metal he blares from his cherry Pontiac Firebird, Johnny couldn’t be a further cry from Mr. Miyagi. Yet when a nerdy immigrant teen moves into the rundown apartment next door, he starts to think he may still have something to offer. He decides to resurrect Cobra Kai dojo.

CLIP: You could stop your training right now, walk outside and let the whole world know you’re a loser. Or you could plant your feet. Look your enemy in the eyes, and punch him in the face. 

Living well may be the best revenge, but the Karate Kid isn’t content to let his opulent house, beautiful wife, and thriving business speak for themselves. When he gets wind of Johnny’s plans, he, too, decides to return to the ring. Then it’s on like Godzilla vs King Kong.  

Daniel-San isn’t the bad guy by a long shot. But he’s a lot less lovable than has-been Johnny, who makes us laugh out loud with his throw-back attitude. 

CLIP: Don’t you think you’re doing a lot of genderizing? What? Sorry, don’t you think you’re doing a lot of genderizing, Sensei? No? Oh, my guidance counselor says certain words perpetuate the sexist worldview that can trigger. Quiet! From now on you won’t listen to your guidance counselor. You’re gonna listen to me. Is that understood? Yes, Sensei. Good. Now stop yapping like a little girl and give me 50 pushups on your knuckles.

Unlike Daniel, who’s the very model of a modern majordomo, Johnny didn’t get the memo that it’s no longer cool to call women “babes” or hang massive American flags on his wall. He’s today’s underdog—a working-class junkyard mutt who gets kicked around by his supposed intellectual and ethical betters. But he still has enough spirit to haul himself out of a tangle of greasy sheets every morning and snarl in the face of safe spaces. 

CLIP: We do not train to be merciful here. Mercy is for the weak. Here. On the street. In competition, a man confronts you, he is the enemy. And the enemy deserves no mercy. What is the problem Mr. Diaz? No problem, Sensei. You punched me and I have asthma, so. Not anymore. We do not allow weakness in this dojo. So you can leave your asthma and your peanut allergies outside, is that understood? Yes but those are real medical problems. Yes, Sensei. Understood. 

Later, when someone phones asking if the dojo accepts gender nonconforming students, a confused Johnny wonders if it’s some kind of prank call.

Is it only nostalgia and weariness with a world that suddenly feels overrun with hall-monitors that’s won Cobra Kai legions of fans? No doubt that’s a significant factor. But the show isn’t politically incorrect just for political incorrectness’s sake. Cobra Kai weighs what it means to be a man in a culture that no longer seems to have much use for them. It looks at how fathers, both biological and adopted, shape their children, and how growing up without dads is leading to extremes of aggression and helplessness.

CLIP: Creese gave me more attention than I ever got at home. The guy was more than a sensei to me. He was basically a father. Forget it. You wouldn’t understand. My dad died when I was 8. Mr. Miyagi was basically a father to me. It’s crazy man, both finding karate role models.

At one point, an athlete at a martial arts competition feels he has to give a virtue-signaling speech condemning toxic masculinity before he can compete.

A viewer can’t miss the irony that the woke adults in these young men’s lives demand a conformity and submission far more pitiless than anything a high school clique could come up with. 

The most frustrating thing about Cobra Kai is that for a series so well-tailored to watch with tweens and teens, it includes a hefty amount of language and crude humor. Thankfully, Vidangel, has the show on its service too. So families have the option to enjoy the fun and thoughtful themes while filtering out what’s truly toxic.

MEGAN BASHAM: Today is Friday, September 25th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Megan Basham.

MYRNA BROWN: And I’m Myrna Brown. Next up: Listener Feedback!

And we’re going to start today, as we usually do, with corrections. On the September 10th newscast, we told you about the kickoff to the NFL season. That game was between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Houston Texans. That was right, but we told you no fans would attend that evening’s game, and that was not correct. In fact, 17,000 people sat in the stands at Arrowhead Stadium.

BASHAM: And in one of our reports about Hurricane Laura coming in Louisiana, we said the storm’s winds blew 500 miles inland. That would be pretty far! We actually meant to say 200 miles.

BROWN: OK, well let’s move on now to calls from our listener feedback line. The first is from Andy Sorrentino.

SORRENTINO: I’m a world member and I listen in Southeastern Pennsylvania. I’m calling with a suggestion for the Legal Docket podcast. How about episodes exploring the justices who make up the Supreme Court? I propose it would be a unique way to round out your season of episodes highlighting court cases. I’m grateful for all the work at WORLD radio and thanks for your consideration.

Well, Andy, that is a great suggestion, and we’ll consider it for the next season of Legal Docket. Because this season is in the books! Well, almost in the books. Our last episode comes out Tuesday.

BASHAM That’s right, just in time for the start of this year’s Supreme Court season. And Mary Reichard will be back to her regular reporting of the oral arguments in every case, starting in October.

Well, as always you sent us quite a few emails over the past month. We appreciate every one of you who took the time to write for any reason: suggestion, reproof and encouragement. Listener Kristin Wolf sent in one of those encouraging notes, and it made the whole team smile.

Kristin said her brother-in-law introduced her to the program and regularly told her about things he’d heard. But she never listened for herself until March, when as she put it, the whole world went crazy. She went on,

I thought that it was time that I start paying attention and staying informed. I have listened to it almost everyday since. I have learned so much, I have been encouraged in my walk with the Lord, and I am always excited to share the different things that I learn with those around me. Thank you so much! Keep up the good work! 

BROWN: Of course we also got our fair share of constructive criticism. Listener Susan Blake called in from Lafayette, Indiana. She took issue with our recent report on financial problems at the U.S. Postal Service.

BLAKE: Your reporter listed a lot of the difficult things that the Postal Service faces in meeting budget, etcetera. And he didn’t report at all on the kind of benefits postal workers receive, which is just shocking. As a small business owner who has to fund my own healthcare and who doesn’t have anything close to those benefits. It kind of rubbed me the wrong way to see you playing a song about the Postal Service and how they’re hurting.

Thank you, Susan, for noting that. It’s definitely something to keep in mind for future reports on the Postal Service.

BASHAM: We also received a fair amount of feedback on Monday’s remembrance of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Many of you said you didn’t like our focus on her accomplishments, rather than her support for abortion. Others said they appreciated our graciousness toward someone we disagree with ideologically.

BROWN: One listener said that after Justice Ginsburg’s death he was convicted that he had not specifically prayed for her salvation. And he thanked us for reminding him to pray that Christ be formed in all our nation’s leaders.

BASHAM: Amen to that!

BROWN: Indeed.

BASHAM: Well, we’re going to end today with a call from listener Jim Berkheimer. He phoned in from Indiana to tell us how much he appreciates the start of each program.

BERKHEIMER: Just wanted to let you know that we really do enjoy listening to The World and Everything in It and I so enjoy the first comments about the people that state their support for World and why they’re listening. That is so neat that you have these people that are doing that. Fantastic.

We love our listener prerolls, too! It’s so fun to hear from people who really do connect with us from all over the world. This past month, we received messages from listeners in Bangladesh, Japan, and Sarajevo! Pretty remarkable. And Jim’s call couldn’t have come in at a better time, because we’re actually running low on prerolls. Again!

BROWN: That’s right, we asked you several weeks ago to send us recordings of yourself introducing the program. Some of you did, and we’re grateful for that. But we still need more! So if you would like to take your turn introducing the program, now’s your chance.

Go to and click on the “Engage” tab in the top menu, then select “Record a Preroll.” You’ll find all the instructions there. One other note: We love it when families record prerolls together, but not when everyone’s speaking at the same time. That makes it hard to understand. So, by all means, record together. But only one person at a time.

MYRNA BROWN: It takes a lot of people to put this program together each week. Our thanks to these hardworking folks:

Janie B. Cheaney, Kent Covington, Laura Edghill, Nick Eicher, Kristen Flavin, Kim Henderson, Anna Johansen, Leigh Jones, Vivian Jones, Onize Ohikere, Andrée Seu Peterson, Bonnie Pritchett, Mary Reichard, Sarah Schweinsberg, and Cal Thomas.

MEGAN BASHAM: Johnny Franklin and Carl Peetz stay up late to get the program to you early. Paul Butler is executive producer. Marvin Olasky is editor-in-chief.

And of course, you. You make this program possible with your support. Thank you! 

Psalm 119 tells us that those who seek the Lord’s precepts will walk in freedom.

May you have a restful weekend and worship with your brothers and sisters in Christ.

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