MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Coming up next, an excerpt from tomorrow’s episode of Listening In. This week host Warren Smith talks with pastor and author Jason Jimenez.
Now, these are divisive times. Sometimes it’s hard to have conversations with people with whom we disagree.
But Jimenez says if we learn how to love our neighbor, it becomes easier to have those conversations.
JASON JIMENEZ: You know the sad truth is because we’re dealing with a society who are biblically illiterate, I don’t think people really think through what they believe. They don’t really know it. And so what I wanted to do, based on what we’re talking about right now Warren, is like…ok, my tendency in the flesh, I could be the aggressor, right? I’m a philosopher by trade, theologian, apologist like you.
This is stuff we’ve studied and trained to do, we deliver, we write books about it, we do conferences about it. So I can have that tendency. But as we get older, and by God’s grace, in the power of the Holy Spirit, and actually my heart has softened through the years towards people.
I actually love talking with people of the LGBT community. I love talking to people who are progressive Christians. I love talking to people outside the abortion clinics. I care for those people. I like having those conversations because they matter for eternity. So, let’s start focusing on the advocate point of view. You will not win the argument, necessarily, but what will happen is that you will win the person over and that is key, because I believe in advancing the gospel. You have to love and befriend people.
BROWN: That’s Jason Jimenez talking to Warren Smith. To hear their complete conversation, look for Listening In wherever you get your podcasts.