The World and Everything in It — March 9, 2021

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning!

Creative ways to get covid vaccines into people’s arms are speeding up distribution.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Also we’ll clear up some confusion over what the vaccines do or don’t do. 

Plus a notable speech from one of the greatest college basketball coaches of all time: UCLA’s John Wooden.

And life, love, and hunting.

REICHARD: It’s Tuesday, March 9th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!

REICHARD: Now the news. Here’s Kent Covington.

KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says » The CDC now says that if you have been fully vaccinated against the coronavirus, you can safely gather with others who are also vaccinated without a mask. 

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky added that vaccinated Americans can also visit with people who have a low risk of serious disease. For example:

WALENSKY: If grandparents have been vaccinated, they can visit their daughter and her family even if they have not been vaccinated.

Walensky called the new guidance on Monday a “first step” toward getting back to normal. She said the agency would OK more activities for vaccinated Americans once caseloads and deaths drop further. 

Officials are also waiting to learn more about the ability of those who are vaccinated to get and spread the virus. But in the meantime…

WALENSKY: Everyone, whether vaccinated or not, should continue to avoid medium and large size gatherings as well as nonessential travel, and when in public spaces, should continue to wear a well-fitted mask, physically distance, and follow other public health measures to protect themselves and others. 

Officials say a person is considered fully vaccinated two weeks after receiving the last required dose of vaccine. That would be the second shot of Pfizer or Moderna or one shot in the case of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. 

About 31 million Americans are now fully vaccinated.That’s roughly 9 percent of the U.S. population. 

Biden ready to sign relief bill as House prepares to vote » White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said the president stands ready to sign the $1.9 trillion COVID relief bill as soon as it lands on his desk.

PSAKI: The plan that the Senate passed this weekend puts us one huge step closer to passing one of the most consequential and most progressive pieces of legislation in American history.

The bill would provide—among other things—payouts to state and local governments, rental assistance, child tax credits, and $1,400 stimulus payments to most Americans. 

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen told MSNBC…

YELLEN: We expect the resources here to really fuel a very strong economic recovery.

But Republicans maintain the bill is loaded with wasteful spending and that it pours trillions of dollars worth of fuel on a federal deficit that’s already on fire. 

And South Carolina Congresswoman Nancy Mace said the bill’s extension of a $300 weekly federal boost to unemployment benefits could do more harm than good.

MACE: My district relies on hospitality and tourism and restaurants to be successful, and we’re having a hard time getting employees to go to work because they found a loophole within the federal unemployment where the work part time, they can make more money on unemployment. 

House lawmakers could vote on the Senate bill as soon as today.

Biden signs ordrs to create Gender Policy Council, review Title IX » President Biden signed two more executive orders on Monday. The first creates a Gender Policy Council. 

The first lady’s chief of staff, Julissa Reynoso, will co-chair the panel. She said its job will be to—quote— “ensure we build a more equal and just democracy” …

REYNOSO: By aggressively protecting the rights and unique needs of those who experience multiple forms of discrimination, including people of color, and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transexual, and queer people.

The president also ordered the Department of Education to review policies put in place by the Trump administration, including changes to Title IX regulations.

Jennifer Klein will serve as the Gender Policy Council’s other co-chair. 

KLEIN: The Title IX E.O. directs the Department of Education to review all of its existing regulations, orders, guidance, and policies to ensure consistency with the Biden-Harris administration’s policy. 

The order could pave the way for a major shift in how colleges handle allegations of sexual misconduct moving forward.

In 2018, Trump’s education secretary, Betsy DeVos, installed new rules that bolstered the rights of the accused.

Jury selection paused in Chauvin trial » Jury selection could resume today in the trial of Derek Chauvin. He is the former Minneapolis police officer charged in the death of George Floyd. 

Judge Peter Cahill paused proceedings on Monday for at least a day.

CAHILL: We’re going to stand in recess. Let’s come back at 10 o’clock and see where we’re at with the court of appeals. 

That was to give time for an appeal as prosecutors hope to reinstate a third-degree murder charge.

Meantime, hundreds of protesters gathered outside the courthouse to call for Chauvin’s conviction. 


Chauvin is charged with unintentional second-degree murder and manslaughter in Floyd’s death in May of last year. 

Legal experts say reinstating the third-degree murder charge would improve the odds of getting a conviction.

N.Y. theaters reopen as box office shows signs of life » States and cities continue to reopen, some more slowly than others. 

In New York city, moviegoers are buying tickets for the first time in almost a year. 

AUDIO: Please be quiet and courteous and silence your cell phones now.

Theaters have reopened in the Big Apple under strict conditions. Movie houses are limited to 25 percent capacity and masks are required. 

And ticket sales are slowly showing signs of life. The estimated U.S. box office gross this past weekend was $25 million. That would normally be a paltry number, but it’s the strongest weekend total since the pandemic began. 

Disney’s Raya and the Last Dragon led the way, taking in nearly $9 million in its debut. 

TRAILER: My name is Raya. Our lands have been at war for as long as we can remember. Our people never see eye to eye.

But many theaters remain closed, including Regal Cinemas, the second largest theater chain in the United States.

I’m Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: the state of the ongoing campaign to vaccinate America.

Plus, Whitney Williams on lessons she’s learned at the deer lease.

This is The World and Everything in It.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: It’s Tuesday the 9th of March, 2021. Glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Mary Reichard.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher. First up: COVID-19 vaccines.

Last month, the FDA gave emergency authorization to a third coronavirus vaccine. Now, Americans can choose between two-dose vaccines from Moderna and Pfizer or a single-dose shot from Johnson & Johnson. A couple more are in the pipeline.

REICHARD: A little later in the program, WORLD’s medical correspondent will join us to talk about the physical effects of these vaccines. But first, WORLD’s Sarah Schweinsberg reports on the massive effort to distribute millions of doses across the country.

SARAH SCHWEINSBERG, REPORTER: A couple walks hand-in-hand into a Centerville, Utah, movie theater megaplex. They’re catching an afternoon film. 

AUDIO: [Electric doors opening]

Inside, concession workers drizzle generous amounts of butter on bags of popcorn. 

AUDIO: [Sound from lobby]

But not everyone is here to watch the latest blockbuster. 

On the right side of the lobby, a nurse in maroon scrubs sits behind a folding table. She directs elderly people through a doorway to a large waiting room with spaced out chairs. They’re waiting for their turn to get a COVID-19 vaccine shot. 

EMT Amanda Young oversees this makeshift clinic. 

YOUNG: I definitely never thought that I’d be giving vaccinations in a movie theater. But like, it’s a cool part of history.

This vaccine site just opened a couple days ago. Young says so far traffic has been slow.

YOUNG: A lot of people don’t know yet because no one would think of vaccines in a movie theater. 

But, she’s optimistic the longer the clinic is here, the more people will come. Young says other theater clinics in Utah have seen up to 800 patients a day. 

YOUNG: It’s awesome that they were able to utilize the space to get more people vaccinated.

In January, states distributed an average of 900,000 vaccines per day. Now, that number has more than doubled to 2 million doses a day. Nearly 1 in 5 American adults have now received at least one shot of a Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. 

David Dobrzykowski is a supply chain professor at the University of Arkansas. He says using public spaces has helped speed up distribution. 

DOBRZYKOWSKI: I think you’re seeing a lot of innovation, and a lot of creative thinking at the state level. You know, for example, in New York City they’re going to be running 24/7 mass vaccinations at athletic stadiums. Many states are using stadiums and mass vaccination types of events. 

Dobrzykowski says vaccine distribution has also sped up as states iron out delivery systems and scheduling and as they open up vaccines for middle-aged adults and more front-line workers like teachers. 

President Biden announced last week that the United States would have enough COVID-19 vaccine doses for every adult by the end of May. 

David Dobrzykowski says that the deadline is pushing pharmaceutical companies to manufacture vaccines as fast as possible. 

DOBRZYKOWSKI: Think about J&J, think about Pfizer, think about Moderna, you know, they literally have as much demand for their product as they can handle. 

David Ding is a supply chain professor at Rutgers University. He says the Biden administration is relying on the Defense Production Act of 1950 to keep manufacturing on pace. The law allows the president to direct private companies to prioritize federal government needs. 

DING: Basically, they are working closely with different pharmaceutical companies to boost up their production of vaccines.

President Biden is also encouraging pharmaceutical competitors to share manufacturing space and ingredients to speed up production. It’s called “coopetition.” 

DING: For now, those pharmaceutical companies are working with the competitors to enhance the capacity. For instance, Pfizer is working with Santa Fe, and Moderna is working with Catalent. And Johnson Johnson is working with a Merk. 

But getting everyone their initial vaccination might not be the end of this distribution challenge.

New strains of the coronavirus have emerged around the world. Dr. Amesh Adalja at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health says the current vaccines still work. 

ADALJA: Our vaccines are highly effective when it comes to what matters with the variants and the original version of the virus, preventing serious disease, hospitalization, and death. 

Still, Pfizer is testing whether a third dose of its inoculation would provide even better protection. The CDC could eventually recommend coronavirus vaccine booster shots. The University of Arkansas’s David Dobrzykowki says that would create a new supply chain complexity: information management. 

DOBRZYKOWSKI: In other words, knowing that Sarah received the Pfizer vaccine, and that she received it on March 5th, and therefore she’s eligible for a booster that is compatible with the Pfizer vaccine on September 5th, right, that type of information, and also then validating that type of information is going to be critically important. 

In the meantime, healthcare workers will need enough personal protective equipment and medical supplies to distribute the first vaccine doses. Items like plastic gloves and specialized syringes that can drink up the last drops of a vaccine in a vile.

Right now, there are no immediate medical equipment shortages. Dobrzykowski says if something does arise, one positive from 2020 is American companies and healthcare workers have learned how to adjust. 

DOBRZYKOWSKI: For example, PPE, you know that never before was recycled is now recyclable through technology developed by a company named Bechtel. PPE that was never previously printed on 3d printers is now available through 3d printing types of technologies. And what we’ve seen through these innovative approaches, I think, are going to stick far into the future.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Sarah Schweinsberg in Centerville, Utah.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And joining us now to talk more about the vaccines themselves is WORLD Medical Correspondent Dr. Charles Horton. Good morning!


REICHARD: Dr. Horton as we know, these three COVID-19 vaccines all use new technology. Moderna and Pfizer’s use mRNA protein technology while Johnson and Johnson’s uses viral vector technology. Can you explain the difference?

HORTON: Sure! Fundamentally, all vaccines for COVID-19 have the same goal, which is to teach the immune system how to recognize the virus so it can attack it. And by “recognize the virus,” what we really mean is recognizing one or two distinctive things about it – just like you or I might describe someone at church: see the tall fellow with the blond hair and the striped shirt? To continue that analogy for a moment, I could say that to you, or I could show you a picture of him. Either way you’d come to understand who I meant.

In the case of coronavirus, a protein called spike protein is what we’re teaching the immune system to look for. The Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses an adenovirus vector. That’s a virus that normally causes the common cold, but they made some changes. Instead of being able to replicate and make you sick, they replace that with the ability to make cells display spike protein. Again, that’s the key that coronavirus uses to invade cells. The mRNA vaccines are more direct. They just directly give cells a recipe for that protein. But, either way, the immune system learns that spike protein means this isn’t welcome. Attack it. 

REICHARD: Now, the pharmaceutical companies developed these vaccines really fast. And that makes a lot of people nervous. The latest Pew Research poll shows 30 percent of Americans don’t plan to get vaccinated. Are there legitimate reasons to be concerned about these vaccines’ potential effects on the body?

HORTON:  The risk of side effects is never completely zero, with any medical procedure or intervention. The big question then becomes how bad those side effects are, and how likely they are.

We know from the phase three trials that were done prior to the emergency use authorizations that at least in the short term, the risk of serious side effects is very low. 

The life-threatening allergic reaction called anaphylaxis that you might have heard about is rare. This is the same reaction that people with severe allergies to things like foods, bee stings, that sort of thing carry an Epi-Pen to treat.

We can’t completely rule out long-term effects from the vaccine, for the same reason we can’t rule out long-term effects from the virus: only decades of hindsight can do that. But we can say that some of the worries that people have discussed are things that aren’t going to happen.

REICHARD: And what are some of those worries?

HORTON: First off, you will not get coronavirus from any vaccine sold in America right now, because the vaccines sold here do not contain coronavirus. They show your immune system a picture of the virus and say, “if you ever see this, destroy it,”

Second, it won’t permanently change your genetic code. It won’t even temporarily change your genetic code. DNA gets transcribed to mRNA – that stands for messenger RNA, because it carries a message—and then transcribed to proteins. Once the mRNA has been transcribed enough times, it’s used up. The cell breaks it down.

Third, the vaccine won’t make you infertile. The vaccine causes you to make  antibodies against spike protein, just like you would develop from getting COVID-19 and recovering from it. They don’t attack the placenta. It just lets you fast-forward through the part where you get sick with COVID-19 to develop those anti-spike protein antibodies. 

REICHARD: The CDC just announced yesterday that fully vaccinated people can gather with other vaccinated people without masks. But what about being out in public after getting fully vaccinated? Do people still need to wear masks or worry about social distancing?

HORTON: Ah, $64,000 question! This was a common-sense decision on the CDC’s part and I was glad to see it. Remember, people who have coronavirus are contagious because the virus is able to hijack cells in their bodies, make copies of itself, and send them out into the world. That’s how all viruses work. So, if your immune system is already primed to fight it off, presumably the virus gets much less of a chance to do all of that. We know that vaccinated people can still get a mild case of disease, which means it might be possible to pass it on, but it should be much less likely.

That means there are two questions here. The first is can start to return to normal life after getting the vaccine, and the answer is yes because the chance of getting severely ill goes way down, and also because the chance of transmitting the virus goes way down. The second asks should we wait until more of the public has had the vaccine before we completely put away the masks and stand close together. From a standpoint of being considerate to other people, being our brother’s keeper, yes, I would give that a little more time.

REICHARD: And finally, Dr. Horton, it’s been one year since the pandemic spread across the country. Do we now understand more about the long term physical effects of the virus on the body?

HORTON: The most common features of “long COVID” relate to the brain and the heart – there’s a “brain fog” with fatigue, trouble focusing, and memory loss, and there’s a decrease in heart function. But it’s a lot easier to quantify heart function, so let’s focus on that for now. 

The good news is most people who get COVID-19 don’t seem to develop any heart trouble, and the not-so-bad news is that for those who do, most recover. Pro sports leagues looked carefully for heart damage in almost 800 athletes who’d tested positive, found abnormal screening results in thirty of those, and actual inflammatory heart disease in five of them.

There is a flip side to this, which is we’re talking about pro athletes here. They’re in great shape to start out, and injuries that would keep me out of church-league softball for a season might keep these guys on the sidelines for a few weeks.

But all in all, thankfully, it sounds like long COVID is a much less common phenomenon—and not as significant a phenomenon—compared to what initially thought it might be.

REICHARD: Dr. Charles Horton is WORLD’s medical correspondent. He lives and works and raises his family in Pennsylvania. As always, thank you! 

HORTON: My pleasure!

NICK EICHER, HOST: Two women who discovered they had a lot more in common than they initially thought recently shared their story in a video that’s gone viral.

Cassandra Madison and Julia Tinetti met at a pub in Connecticut where the two of them worked. They became fast friends—both of them having been adopted, both of them coming from the Dominican Republic. 

But a mutual friend had a hunch about something further. As she explained to TV station KMVT: 

COURTNEY: I started with Cassie, I met Julia, and I looked at the both of them and I was like you two look alike. Are you guys sisters? She was like, no, we’re not.

Ah, but not so fast. Customers couldn’t tell them apart—kept confusing the two women. So they relented and figured, you know, let’s get the DNA test. Cassandra has the results.

CASSANDRA: We’re sisters!

REICHARD: But that doesn’t mean you  can borrow my stuff.

Hey, fake news. She didn’t say that!

It’s The World and Everything in It.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Today is Tuesday, March 9th. You’re listening to WORLD Radio and we thank you for that. 

Good morning. I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. Coming next on The World and Everything in It: Notable Speeches Past and Present.

Well, it is March. And that means basketball! March Madness begins in a little more than a week. 

Fifty years ago, the UCLA Bruins faced-off with New York’s Villanova for the final game of the men’s tournament. The Bruins’ victory earned them their fifth consecutive national title. They went on to win the next two national titles and a record breaking 88 games in a row. 

The Bruins’ head coach was the very mild-mannered John Wooden.

EICHER: In November 1971, Wooden spoke to UCLA students and alumni about his simple philosophy for how to win basketball games and if you listen close enough, you’ll learn a few things about life as well. Here’s a bit of that talk, which we’ve edited for time.

JOHN WOODEN: Well, I’ll give you perhaps an idea of my philosophy about the game, and what we try to do each and every year. First of all, I think that’s there’s three things that a coach must have in mind. 

I feel that, first of all, you have to get them into condition. And the players must realize that there are many ways to attain and maintain condition. Now what we do on the floor is very important. But actually what they do off the floor is equally as important. And some don’t do between practices what I would like for him to do. And as a result, it makes the practices a little harder for them. And they suffer a little more during the practices. They’re never in as good a condition as they should be, or could be. You don’t expect perfection, but you reach for it. I think it’s a goal that we all try for.

It’s important to be in good condition and maintain a good condition because I think it’s a proven fact that the ability to properly and quickly execute the fundamentals leads you in direct proportion to your condition. And games are won or lost in the closing minutes, generally speaking of each half, and the team that is in better condition, assuming that other things are equal, will be performing a little more efficiently in those critical periods because they won’t be quite as tired and will just be able to shoot a little better, pass a little better, defend a little better jump a little higher, and do the things that will be necessary toward scoring more points than the opponent is what it really amounts to. 

The second thing that I think that is a coach’s very responsibility is to see that they learn to properly and quickly execute the fundamentals. And I mean all of the fundamentals. Now there are some that work hard to be able to execute the offensive fundamentals, they like to shoot. Some work much harder on their shooting than they do on their passing. Most of them work harder on offense than they do on defense and that’s natural and I’m not critical of a person who has that feeling. I’m just critical of them when they go out and don’t work hard on defense.

It takes both. They must be able to shoot and to be able to get the shot away. So if they can shoot but can’t get shots that doesn’t help you much. If they can get shots but can’t make shots that doesn’t help you much if they can pass but won’t pass that doesn’t help you much. I’ve said that I like players who not only can pass but will pass. And I’ve had some that can and will, and I’ve had some that could but wouldn’t. I like them that can and will.

So the ability to quickly and properly execute the fundamentals is most important in my philosophy of teaching any type of athletics. And while at UCLA, it’s been only basketball, prior to that I had some experience quite a few years as a matter of fact, of coaching baseball, tennis, track and field and one year of football. And, and I consider myself to be one of the smarter football coaches, because I coached one year and didn’t coach anymore. And I completed the year on a long winning streak. So that’s real good. And I’m just smart enough to get out of it. 

So the fundamentals are the second thing. And the third thing is you must, you must get across the idea that it is a team game, and they must play together. You can call it anything you want: team spirit, teamwork, self sacrifice, whatever you want, it all amounts to the same thing. And I think in the final analysis, that you have to have all three of these things. 

No matter how team oriented you are, if you’re not in condition, and you can’t execute the fundamentals, it doesn’t help you much. No matter how well you can execute the fundamentals if you’re not in condition, and you’re a selfish individual, that doesn’t help the team much. So it takes all three. If you’re in condition, but you are not team oriented, and you don’t know the fundamentals, you’re not much good to the team as a whole. 

So it takes all three of these things. And it’s been my deep and abiding philosophy for many, many years that the three things are most important. Sometimes I think if the ability is equal, the most difficult to get is the true team spirit. And I don’t think that should be because I think that’s what we need in everything, whether it be in the home, as a student here at UCLA, whether it be in our city, or country or state or in the world. I think that’s all we need. 

And my definition of success is peace of mind through self satisfaction and knowing that you’ve done the best that you’re capable of doing. Now, the good Lord didn’t see fit to create us all equal in any, in any respect: physically, environmentally, as far as appearance is concerned, as far as height or weight or our looks, we’re all different. But we all have an opportunity to make the most of what we have under the conditions that exist for us. 

And if we’re a whiner, and a complainer, and we’re always comparing ourselves with the other fella, we never make the most of what we have. And we’re just abject failures. That’s all there is to it. And my idea is to try to make the most with what you have. And then regardless of the scores, if you’re a coach, you always win. Now you won’t win in the eyes of the alumni, I know that. But I still feel at peace with yourself is far more important. And if you have that, eventually, I think the scores will be to your liking more often than not. 

EICHER: College basketball hall of fame coach John Wooden, speaking at UCLA in 1971.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Today is Tuesday, March 9th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. Here’s WORLD commentator Whitney Williams on the connection between hunting and living.

WHITNEY WILLIAMS, COMMENTATOR: My husband hunts. To non-hunters that sounds like a lot of killing. But I’ve found over 11 years of matrimony, it’s actually a lot of living. And I love that for our three young boys.

They’ve seen big bucks in the wild, mama does and their babies, dove, bald eagles, wild hogs, coyotes, dung beetles, jackrabbits, turkeys strutting their stuff. Their daddy, on multiple occasions, pulled a rattlesnake out of his den with a long metal pole—“Can y’all hear ‘im? Can y’all hear ‘im rattlin?” On two separate occasions a skunk has run away from us! (We do tend to bathe less while out in the wild.) My youngest calls skunks “stunks,” and I’m not even about to correct that cuteness.

At least three times my boys have stripped down to their undies to feel crystal clear creek water rush over their skin, smiling ear to ear in response to how cold it is.

Bluebonnets, wildflowers, arrowhead hunting, four-wheeler riding, mudding, a one-room cabin in the Texas hill country, complete with a windmill and well water, skeet-shooting, exploding targets, and lessons on guns, cacti, mesquite thorns, sweating and freezing in the deer stand, watching the sun rise and set. Wooded, landlocked solitude—five gates deep.

But then, the landowners decided to sell.

My husband’s outdoorsy dreams for his three boys suddenly went up in smoke. He knew those 500 acres like the back of his hand. He’d spent 25 or so years of his life on that land. He searched and searched for a new deer lease, finally settling on a desolate and expensive place in Throckmorton, Texas. “It’s not pretty,” he told me, “but the other hunters who use it are OK with us bringing the boys.” Flat land as far as the eye could see, littered with ugly, burnt mesquite trees, wind turbines in the distance. No cabin, no woods or shelter from the wind. The settlers would have kept movin’.

We took the kids last weekend, brought our tent, and everything else we owned. Had you passed our blue Chevy pick-up on the highway, you might have mistaken us for the Beverly Hillbillies. Boots and sleeping bags and snacks and trash tumbled out when we opened the door at the gas station; two four-wheelers on the flatbed trailer, deer corn, and more. That evening, realizing the wind would be too harsh for our planned campout, we set up our tent inside an empty grain silo on the land, home to scorpions and spiders, but still, a welcome shelter. 

My husband started a fire behind the silo, out of the wind. The five of us circled round, under the stars, roasting marshmallows and hot dog wieners. One of our three-year-old twins, in his excitement, slipped and fell into a fresh cow patty. It was beautiful.

“This is how life’s supposed to be,” my husband and I mused, as the other two boys whipped one another with weeds.  

In that moment, we shared between us a silent understanding—God was restoring the dreams my husband held for his sons. He had provided a place for us to hunt, to live, once again—sans screens, supplemental stars. 

Our hands slipped together. “Love you.” “Love you, too.”

I’m Whitney Williams.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Tomorrow: red lines for Iran. The Biden administration is in a standoff with Tehran over its nuclear program.

We’ll talk about that on Washington Wednesday.

That and more tomorrow. 

I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard.

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